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    Bladerunner 2049

    I tend to be a tad sceptical of sequels and reboots/remakes at times,but the good reviews of this made me venture to the cinema to watch this.

    But wow!

    The hype was well deserved - what a fantastic film and a worthy follow up to the original.

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    Re: Bladerunner 2049

    Words from Roger Deakins the cinematographer for the film:

    https://www.rogerdeakins.com/film-ta...2049-2d-or-3d/

    We shot the film in 2D and in a wide screen format.
    I think I said previously that I oversaw the timing of all the versions of 'BR2049' including the HDR version.

    My preferred version is the standard 2D widescreen version. A problem I have with some viewing systems is their use of silvered screens. The image projected on a silvered screen lacks saturation as well as density as it falls off from a hot spot in the center of vision. This may not be so apparent for someone sitting in the optimum viewing seat but it is a compromise in terms of image quality wherever you are seated, though it maybe a compromise worth accepting if you are a fan of 3D.
    I watched it on the superscreen at the O2 and this film definitely benefits from a large screen. It is apparently shot for IMAX,and in one or two scenes I could see slight cropping which would hint at that.

    However,for me I would rather have a larger normal screen than a smaller IMAX one to watch this on.

    Also,the film was not shot in 3D,so the 3D version is not native 3D and from what I have read its very mildly implemented.

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    Re: Bladerunner 2049

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Also,the film was not shot in 3D,so the 3D version is not native 3D and from what I have read its very mildly implemented.
    It is available in 4DX which I haven't tried yet. Not sure I want to smell a dystopian future mind when just viewing one is quite dramatic

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    Re: Bladerunner 2049

    Saw it yesterday evening in 2D at the local IMAX theatre. Like CAT I was apprehensive to say the least, because I'm a huuuuge fan of Blade Runner. I went into the screening with moderate expectations, but an open mind ...and was summarily blown away! If anything, I would've preferred Vangelis to do the music again, but Ben Wallfisch and Hans Zimmer did a reasonably good imitation.

    Good to know the film was shot in 2D. Seems I got the best possible viewing experience then.

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    Re: Bladerunner 2049

    Looking forward to seeing it when it comes to th3 small screen. (Or released on DVD)
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    Re: Bladerunner 2049

    Slightly worried that my expectations will be too high after listening to Kermode and Mayo but think it'll be a great film and that I will enjoy it, so looking forward to it massively.

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    Re: Bladerunner 2049

    It was alright... a few gripes and niggles, but certainly not the abysmal failure of Ridley piddling all over his previous work, like he has with certain other films, lately...!

    However, I notice it's kinda tanking at the box office...

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    Re: Bladerunner 2049

    cant wait to see it!!!!

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    Re: Bladerunner 2049

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    It was alright... a few gripes and niggles, but certainly not the abysmal failure of Ridley piddling all over his previous work, like he has with certain other films, lately...!

    However, I notice it's kinda tanking at the box office...
    Only in the US where all the media is sensationalising it and the stupid media here just regurgitates it(even though its pulled more than expected abroad and is number 1 here) even though it is the number 1 in the US by a fair distance!

    For instance the media is saying its "tanked" since instead of at least $40 million it generated just above $30 million in the US,whereas they ignore the fact it pulled in $50 million elsewhere,and the UK is the second largest market after the US.

    Its also only being released next month in China which is pretty big too(second after the US but for a number of films has actually contributed more IIRC).

    Considering what type of film it is,it was never going to be another Star Wars!

    Edit!!

    Also this is another factor:

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4326&p=.htm

    It seems the US film market has been very tough this summer with lower than average takings overall for most films.
    Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 10-10-2017 at 12:10 PM.

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    Re: Bladerunner 2049

    Tanked, as in failed to make double it's budget... assuming that is still one of the measures they use.
    Even at the lowest estimate of $150mil, it's only brought in $81.7mil...

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    Re: Bladerunner 2049

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    Tanked, as in failed to make double it's budget... assuming that is still one of the measures they use.
    Even at the lowest estimate of $150mil, it's only brought in $81.7mil...
    It missed it's $90 to $100 million dollar estimate by $10 million in three days(just over $80 million) especially in a summer in the US where takings are down,and the media looses the plot.

    Due to its length apparently cinemas also didn't do as many viewings either as it would displace other films from their roster.

    The film cost $150 million - the estimate for the first few days was $40ish milllon in takings at the low end to $50 million at the high end in the US with a total of $90 to $100 million all-round. It make just over $80 million or 10% less then expected.

    Despite this it still is no1 over there:

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

    It "tanked" even though it took as much as the next three films being shown in the US cinemas.

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4326&p=.htm

    Disappointing August 2017 Closed Out the Worst Summer Movie Season in Over 10 Years
    I remember Pacific Rim which cost more to make than BR2049 "tanked" in the US but made 75% of its takings abroad. That cost nearly $200 million and made barely $100 million in the US over its entire run.

    This is the problem with the media they panic rush to half complete conclusions way too quickly and seem to think the US=the world especially with our local publications doing the same.

    They are so dumb they will only drive people away with their nonsense.

    It's not even been released in China which is a hilarious move from the distributor though.

    Also it's top of the UK charts and some:

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/201...ngsman-dunkirk

    The thing is it won't be a billion dollar movie but it's still going to be OKish I suspect and if Pacific Rim can barely make double it's budget and get a sequel I assume a cheaper film with much less spent on advertising wont need to earn as much anyway.

    However,I wouldn't mind if we moved away from financials back to the actual movie. Its not like the original Bladerunner was a success either when it came to the box office!
    Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 10-10-2017 at 04:34 PM.

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    Re: Bladerunner 2049

    I was very confused - people kept knowing where to go to, but the film did not let us know how they knew!
    The action and thumping soundtrack was entertaining though.
    Very proud to get to the end without a loo break.

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    Re: Bladerunner 2049

    Looking forward to watching it but i think i'll watch original again then go and watch this

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    Re: Bladerunner 2049

    I have read that 'Bladerunner 2049' has not fared well at the box-office. Apparently this is due to it being a long film requiring a decent IQ ~ sounds like my kind of film!

    IIRC, 'Waterworld' was one of the biggest box-office flops but it still turned a profit eventually, via DVD sales, etc.

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    Re: Bladerunner 2049

    Quote Originally Posted by esde View Post
    I have read that 'Bladerunner 2049' has not fared well at the box-office. Apparently this is due to it being a long film requiring a decent IQ ~ sounds like my kind of film!

    IIRC, 'Waterworld' was one of the biggest box-office flops but it still turned a profit eventually, via DVD sales, etc.
    Its not fared well at the US box office,but internationally its doing far better. Its hit around $160 million already with nearly 65% of sales coming from outside the US,and the international numbers are mostly upto the 8th too:

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/...nnersequel.htm

    Its being released in Japan and China on the 27th.
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    Re: Bladerunner 2049

    Quote Originally Posted by esde View Post
    I have read that 'Bladerunner 2049' has not fared well at the box-office. Apparently this is due to it being a long film requiring a decent IQ ~ sounds like my kind of film!
    It could also have been said about a number of other films which were actually just artsy-fartsy, up-their-own, overly self-indulgent, intellectual try-hard piles of arthouse-wannabe junk churned out by ex-filmschool dropouts... Happily BR2049 is not one of those!!

    Quote Originally Posted by esde View Post
    IIRC, 'Waterworld' was one of the biggest box-office flops but it still turned a profit eventually, via DVD sales, etc.
    The original BR didn't do amazingly, either. Depends, though - I undestood a film had to make double it's budget to be considered a success, but that also depends on whether you include the marketing and all the other gumph, or just count 'what the studio paid to get it made'...

    It'll probably make a bucket in the DVD sales, again just like the original.

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