Altered Carbon - a new Cyberpunk series from Netflix

[Ttaskmaster]

So generally just "pretty good", "pretty good" and "not bad"......?
Sounds a little mediocre, really.

I'll probably watch it when I can access the full season and binge watch without adverts.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

So generally just "pretty good", "pretty good" and "not bad"......?
Sounds a little mediocre, really.

I'll probably watch it when I can access the full season and binge watch without adverts.

Its good enough for me to watch it,but then I think The Expanse and Westworld are better series.

[Ttaskmaster]

Its good enough for me to watch it,but then I think The Expanse and Westworld are better series.

Not much of a benchmark for me.... and still only 'good enough'? No better?
The Expanse is utterly awesome regardless, so no real contest. I got very bored with Westworld very quickly.

What are your feelings on Sons of Anarchy? Black Sails? Crossbones? Lucifer? Vikings? Judge Judy/Rinder?

[DanceswithUnix]

I'll probably watch it when I can access the full season and binge watch without adverts.

I really enjoyed the first book, there weren't any adverts in it

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Not much of a benchmark for me.... and still only 'good enough'? No better?
The Expanse is utterly awesome regardless, so no real contest. I got very bored with Westworld very quickly.

What are your feelings on Sons of Anarchy? Black Sails? Crossbones? Lucifer? Vikings? Judge Judy/Rinder?

The Expanse is one of my favourite series in years.

The are few Cyberpunk themed series so its good enough there is such a series even showing,but I think Altered Carbon is more the Matrix kind of action adventure Cyberpunk and less Ghost in the Shell or Bladerunner type,which is more introspective. I would give it a 7/10. The last really Cyperpunk themed series in the US was probably Almost Human during 2013/2014.

Westworld builds up slowly,so I like it,since even Babylon 5 built up slowly.

I don't watch any of the latter series you mentioned.

The current series which I kind of kept up on in the last year or so,finished watching or gave up on:
1.)Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. - I really enjoyed the last series especially as they did take some risks.
2.)The Flash - One of the few superhero series I kept watching,but I find its way too full of angst,so just watch it in a throwaway sense,but the cast seems to fit each other.
3.)Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency - utterly weird and utterly brilliant and one of the best series I have seen in a while.
4.)Dark Matter - had a Stargate/Firefly type vibe to it,and it might have been low budget but the cast seemed to "gel" with each other.
5.)Killjoys - was not sure on that,but seems to have gotten better. Quite low budget,but its something to watch.
6.)Galavant - awesome. Good cast chemistry.
7.)Elementary - fun enough to watch.
8.)The 100 - interesting premise,but too much angst(just shag each other FFS),so got bored of it.
9.)Arrow - did the comic thing and overconvoluted things,so got bored of it.
10.)Legends of Tommorrow - just meh.
11.)Dr Who - got bored of it.
12.)Game of Thrones - never really got into it. Tyrion is awesome though.


I started watching The Walking Dead yonks before any of my mates,but TBH it went too comic level logic for me,and I got bored of it,especially as they tried amping up the violence just for the sake of it. Got bored of Dr Who.

Sherlock is still good.

There might be a few others I tried watching,but The Expanse is probably for me the best of all of them together with Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency.

[Macman]

So generally just "pretty good", "pretty good" and "not bad"......?
Sounds a little mediocre, really.

I'll probably watch it when I can access the full season and binge watch without adverts.

Full Season is already available? Plus... do you generally gauge your watching on what other people think?

I watch something and judge it for myself, don't bother with critics write-ups or other folk for that matter.

Whiplash for me is in my top 5 movies, whereas a lot of others may think it isn't worthy of a top 5.

I highly recommend you watch AC, I really enjoyed watching it.

[DanceswithUnix]

Westworld builds up slowly,so I like it,since even Babylon 5 built up slowly.

Did you see Dollhouse? Another slow starting show that I thought just got awesome. Don't think it is on Netflix any more though

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Did you see Dollhouse? Another slow starting show that I thought just got awesome. Don't think it is on Netflix any more though

I started watching that but never finished it. I might need to,though! Another one was Invasion which built up slowly then got cancelled after one season,and I though Defiance in its last season finished very strongly,ie,a bit like Enterprise did.

[MrJim]

She was also in The 100 and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. too.

She was in Neighbours too! Err, so I'm told...

[Smudger]

I've only watched the 1st episode and I liked it. I didn't think the nudity was gratuitous, but maybe it gets more frequent in later episodes, although you'd have seen less of the boss man's wife if she'd been wearing a bikini... Violence didn't seem too bad either, but maybe I'm dulled to it by now.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

She was in Neighbours too! Err, so I'm told...

Well,if someone is a fan of her,they should watch this due to the amount of nudity!

Basically most of the main cast,gets their norks or wangs out at some point. Personally it did not really add anything to it IMHO OFC,unlike Westworld were the nudity made more sense to a degree since they were androids.

Its definitely more like the Matrix with more T and A and W,and very violent for a TV series. Think a person walking around with a severed head with blood dripping from it level or a women being opened up after death with her innards being removed. Its probably one of the most violent sci-fi series I have ever seen(maybe the most TBH). I fully expected Arnie to suddenly pop up out of nowhere with a minigun!!

Although GoT has its exploding skull which is hard to be topped.

[Ttaskmaster]

The Expanse is one of my favourite series in years.

Yeah, but that's like giving everyone an Aston Martin when all they've ever driven is a Vauxhall Corsa...!!

The last really Cyperpunk themed series in the US was probably Almost Human during 2013/2014.

What the Karl Urban one?
I really enjoyed that and was mightily piddled when they cancelled it!

Killjoys and Dark Matter have been good so far (and yes, I know about the latter).
Elementary is utter cack, which I'd only ever watch for JLM.
GoT and Dr W both seem pretty much required viewing in either our house, or the domiciles of everyone I know.

Full Season is already available?

On Sky?
I don't have Netflicks or anything.

Plus... do you generally gauge your watching on what other people think?

More on what they think of something and why, compared to what they think of other things that I have fairly strong opinions about... but then only as a rough starting point and in the absence of any friends who have seen it and know what sort of things I myself enjoy.
For example, through such reasoning I worked out early on that I'd utterly despise Breaking Bad... but still watched 2 seasons of it to keep certain people quiet and was proven right on all things at every turn. They conceded that I was right all along and accepted that I do indeed have a vague idea of what sort of things I myself enjoy.

I watch something and judge it for myself, don't bother with critics write-ups or other folk for that matter.

I mostly ignore critics, but I don't have time to watch enough of everything to even give it a fair chance... and I'm old enough that a lot of TV nowadays seems like recycled same-same cack.

Whiplash for me is in my top 5 movies, whereas a lot of others may think it isn't worthy of a top 5.

I can at least understand why you feel that way, though, which is part of figuring out if I'll like something.

Basically most of the main cast,gets their norks or wangs out at some point.

Aw, really?
Starting to lose interest, now......

Its definitely more like the Matrix with more T and A and W,and very violent for a TV series.

Yeah, interest losing, still....

Although GoT has its exploding skull which is hard to be topped.

Once in a while such things are great, if done well and serve the plot. Not these days, though.

I refer to everything the wife watches on TV as porn, though, as it all has so much T&A (and violence), for NO GOOD REASON.... It's like everyone in TV is suddenly 12 years old!!

[DanceswithUnix]

I refer to everything the wife watches on TV as porn, though, as it all has so much T&A (and violence), for NO GOOD REASON.... It's like everyone in TV is suddenly 12 years old!!

Kind of central to the plot here, where organic damage where you can just be downloaded into a new sleeve isn't the same as death from which you can't return. Life would get mucky pretty fast.

[Ttaskmaster]

Kind of central to the plot here, where organic damage where you can just be downloaded into a new sleeve isn't the same as death from which you can't return. Life would get mucky pretty fast.

Why does it require full on nudity, though?

Don't get me wrong, I rarely object to nudity... but I have never heard a convincing argument on why it is necessary to the plot for it to be on screen.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Yeah, but that's like giving everyone an Aston Martin when all they've ever driven is a Vauxhall Corsa...!!


What the Karl Urban one?
I really enjoyed that and was mightily piddled when they cancelled it!

Killjoys and Dark Matter have been good so far (and yes, I know about the latter).
Elementary is utter cack, which I'd only ever watch for JLM.
GoT and Dr W both seem pretty much required viewing in either our house, or the domiciles of everyone I know.

Yeah,the one with Karl Urban,and it was a shame it was cancelled. Elementary is just fine for lightweight viewing so serves a purpose!!

GoT,I couldn't get into - I am less a fantasy fan,and all the good guys are morons,so at this point like BSG,which I also had to push myself to finish I gave up. Dr Who,I just got bored of it for a while,then I fell behind and it made no sense,so CBA to watch the episodes I missed and gave up.

But Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency and Galavant surprised me TBH.

Aw, really?
Starting to lose interest, now......


Yeah, interest losing, still....


Once in a while such things are great, if done well and serve the plot. Not these days, though.

I refer to everything the wife watches on TV as porn, though, as it all has so much T&A (and violence), for NO GOOD REASON.... It's like everyone in TV is suddenly 12 years old!!

Apparently its meant to show the disposability of bodies in that world,etc but I dunno,I think it was just their attempt to be "gritty" and some of it makes no sense,if you think about it.

I remember the first episode of Stargare SG1 did that,with female full frontal nudity,since it was meant to shock the viewer into showing how evil the Goa'uld were. Then they realised it was never really required and subsequently didn't bother and the series was fine.

Then BSG came along with its "grittiness" ,the SG:A tried to do the same,and failed miserably. Now since all these "adult" and "gritty" shows,think that getting norks and wangs out is the way to show its "adult" they all do it ,which is rather weird since you could just go onto Pornhub and probably get more of it!

Plus even the violence is just getting to comedy levels - its like watching an arnie film,ie,a bit OTT and comic.

For instance in The Expanse,the most violent bit was when the medic has his head blown off by shrapnel,but then it made sense in that scene,or even the nudity in that scene in the bathroom,which was meant to be poignant.

I mean I don't mind T and A and W if it serves a purpose,so it was more understandable in Westworld(having said it,some of it was probably just for shock value) although sadly it also means some decent series,really can't be watched if you have kids around.

Kind of central to the plot here, where organic damage where you can just be downloaded into a new sleeve isn't the same as death from which you can't return. Life would get mucky pretty fast.

It makes no sense for the sleaves to be fully naked. For one they are lying down which means horrible tan lines and two,it makes more sense to have a sort of compression catsuit so they can stimulate the muscles remotely. They also must have terribly dry skin and very stiff muscles when they wake up!!

Plus Ghost in the Shell follows similar themes,with cyberbrains,etc.

Edit!!

I am talking about the storage areas,not the creation chambers.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

US bus shelter billboard for Altered Carbon:

https://imgur.com/gallery/HYTpf

NSFW,but looks very costly for a small billboard!!