Re: nu-Who new series...thoughts on the first episode?
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Jonj1611
Well you learn something new everyday
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24848815
Dr Who and Star Trek have always been "preachy" and making social commentaries. The hero always wins the day or if they don't they find a way to redeem themselves in a "greater way".
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At least one good thing Dr Who does,is that there is very literal visceral gore(or nudity),meaning for the most part it is somewhat family friendly. A lot of sci-fi now,tends to amp up gore and nudity to make it feel "more adult".
Re: nu-Who new series...thoughts on the first episode?
A week behind on this now, but I don't think I'll catch up again. The spider episode didn't really do anything for me, even Rosa I was a bit disappointed that they didn't do anything clever with the story. You've got the whole of space and time to play with, tell the stories in a more interesting way please!
Re: nu-Who new series...thoughts on the first episode?
I think that episode was an improvement, but still not there yet. Afterwards my daughter said something along the lines of "Why do they have to make the monster so cute, that just wasn't scary. They need to do something like Silence in the Library or The Empty Child."
I think she's right, my reply was just "yeah, or Blink" :)
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Blink, amazing, hardly had the doctor in it and one of the best yet(imo)
Re: nu-Who new series...thoughts on the first episode?
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CAT-THE-FIFTH
Dr Who has been making sideways social commentary for decades.
Sideways, sure, and usually mentioned in passing as things the rest of teh galaxy has conquered, leaving humanity to catch up... but not direct wave-in-your-face tackling of things, and never as random statements in the middle of an episode without any pretext or context.
I have to hop on iPlayer, as I fell asleep during the last episode.
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Ttaskmaster
Sideways, sure, and usually mentioned in passing as things the rest of teh galaxy has conquered, leaving humanity to catch up... but not direct wave-in-your-face tackling of things, and never as random statements in the middle of an episode without any pretext or context.
I have to hop on iPlayer, as I fell asleep during the last episode.
Shrugs. I always thought of Dr Who being a bit preachy anyway,a bit like Star Trek:TOS. I would always give a new series,a season at least to bed itself in. Its a women playing a role,a Man has always played,so I assume it will be new ground for the script writers. But I remember back in the day some series took at least the first season to start to get better - B5,TNG,etc.
Anyway,I watch this quite casually,so what does my opinion worth? I suppose if you are a more hardcore Who fan it might be different.
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CAT-THE-FIFTH
Its a women playing a role,a Man has always played,so I assume it will be new ground for the script writers.
Script writer, singular. They are all just credited with Chris Chibnall which seems very odd, a quick look on Wikipedia shows previous series were 50% Steve Moffat at most. You would hope the person who decided Dr Who should be a girl would know what to do with the decision :D
Re: nu-Who new series...thoughts on the first episode?
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CAT-THE-FIFTH
I suppose if you are a more hardcore Who fan it might be different.
I wouldn't say I am an especially hardcore viewer. My wife is more into this than me.
But there are certain fundamental elements to it, which I feel are being disregarded in this latest series.
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DanceswithUnix
Script writer, singular. They are all just credited with Chris Chibnall which seems very odd, a quick look on Wikipedia shows previous series were 50% Steve Moffat at most. You would hope the person who decided Dr Who should be a girl would know what to do with the decision :D
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Ttaskmaster
I wouldn't say I am an especially hardcore viewer. My wife is more into this than me.
But there are certain fundamental elements to it, which I feel are being disregarded in this latest series.
Give it a season - if it doesn't seem to have improved by then end,then I suppose time to replace it in the schedule with another series. The fact is Dr Who in its current form is 13 years old,so its bound to end up having big changes as new people get onboard,and also it depends on the demographic they are targetting and also societal norms of those demographics.
More often than not you see shows trying to chase new viewers - look at SG:U or the new Star Trek,etc. So big changes. In the case of SG:U it tried to BSG,when its fanbase wanted more swashbuckling tales of the heroes saving the universe. Hence it tanked and ended a longrunning series.
Sometimes with big changes I hated them,but as time progressed I warmed into them. For instance Lucy Liu playing Watson in Elementary.Other times for other series,I said meh,moaned a bit and then stopped watching the series.
Its the same with games - I don't understand all the people supporting Pay2Win in non F2P games,or everything having to be an online survival MPfest,but apparently there is a big market for it. Apparently I am not conversant in the Nu-Logic.
Re: nu-Who new series...thoughts on the first episode?
I think this was the first episode where there was no mention of the Doctor's gender at all, and only in previous ones it has just been the odd one line or so. It shouldn't, and doesn't appear to have affected the script as I can just as easily see a man playing the same script.
The one thing I have noticed this season more than others are the facts that are getting dropped in. It was anti-matter drives this week, and how spiders "work" in the last episode, so I guess that goes back to original goal to educate as well as entertain. I guess I will learn a little bit more about how India was partitioned in 1947 next week.
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The new series is not due until 2020.
After watching all this series can't say I am a fan of Jodie Whittaker. Whether the Dr is a man or woman I don't care but her acting has been quite flat and pretty much the rest of the cast doing a better job. Bradley Walsh coming out on top and thats not something I thought I would find myself saying!
Re: nu-Who new series...thoughts on the first episode?
So we're pretty much through a season now and sadly it didn't get any better.
I've got past the Jodie being "the dr" thing now...it's just, the stories and writing have been truly awful. Rehashed, boring concepts in the main (nothing new/imaginative imo), with every one playing up to whatever social issue that the companions have that they want to play up to that week. This season marks the only one that I have decided to not watch on the night it airs and to queue up for when I have nothing better to watch (very much like this season of the walking dead tbh now that a certain event has occurred).
They need to get rid of two of the companions imo, bring back some excitement and at least "mild peril" for the team, plus ideally hire some writers who have a clue what Dr Who is mean to be about.
It's almost like they have tried so hard to make "The Dr" fit and to make you not care that Jodie is now playing the character, that they have made "The Dr" irrelevant to the show. 3 Companions is still too much and Bradley Walsh just doesn't fit in at all..but then none of them really do. It's just so disappointing :(
Fingers crossed they don\'t completely screw up the new years episode when they are bringing back to the Daleks - its quite hard to make a Dalek story really bad, although they tried really, really hard to do so in the other poor season where they had Catherine Tate as a companion "shudder"....we will see in a few weeks!
Re: nu-Who new series...thoughts on the first episode?
Lol I did the same, recorded it on Sky and watched it when I got around to it.
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Spud1
So we're pretty much through a season now and sadly it didn't get any better.
I enjoyed that episode, and thought the last few have been an improvement.
Re: nu-Who new series...thoughts on the first episode?
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Spud1
It's almost like they have tried so hard to make "The Dr" fit and to make you not care that Jodie is now playing the character, that they have made "The Dr" irrelevant to the show.
The Doctor has become increasingly irrelevant, from the moment the Assistants becanme the Companions, started getting their own plots, solving the problems that a 900 year old Timelord couldn't and generally making acting chops of no use in the trite rom-com plot lines...
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Ttaskmaster
The Doctor has become increasingly irrelevant, from the moment the Assistants becanme the Companions, started getting their own plots, solving the problems that a 900 year old Timelord couldn't and generally making acting chops of no use in the trite rom-com plot lines...
True enough, and it has to be said that some of my favourite stories in the Dr Who universe don't even feature "the Dr" at all. Notably the Dalek Empire, Gallifrey and "Cyberman" series from Bigfinish.
This is notable as the first season of Dr Who where i have felt it's intentional rather than byproduct of storylines.