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    Amazon Prime to have ads 2024

    I think the ad free streaming model is coming to an end, companies are slowly adopting more of a Cable/Satellite model. Pay to access with ads but without the lengthy contracts. I wonder how long Apple will keep the ads off.
    I've really slowed down my Amazon purchases these last 12 months and scrapped my Prime in March. I've been moving back to my existing DVDs whilst buying more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Overclock3D
    Unlike Disney+ and Neflix, the introduction of an ad-supported subscription option will not allow Prime users to access Prime Video at a lower price. Instead, UK subscribers will have the option to pay £2.99 per month to remove Amazon’s ads. In effect, Amazon are increasing the price of today’s Prime Video experience.
    https://overclock3d.net/news/misc/am...from-february/

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    Re: Amazon Prime to have ads 2024

    Not too good news I guess, though they have been putting unskippable movie trailers on before some programmes I have noticed.

    I can't stand adverts so will probably pay the £2.99 though will cancel Prime every other month and catch up the following month, that way they lose more from me than they gain. I don't use Prime shipping that much so I am not going to be losing out
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    Re: Amazon Prime to have ads 2024

    Definitely the best idea going ad hoc with good discipline. All too easy to subscribe and forget.

    Ive kept Spotify longer than I ever imagined. Wouldnt surprise me if they do something similar in the future.

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    Re: Amazon Prime to have ads 2024

    Much as I dislike Amazon as a company, I am a bit dependent of them in certain ways. Due to my disability, I sometimes have to spend extended periods of time on bed-rest, and being able to order items from my TV using a Fire Cube is incredibly useful. Boredom is also a major problem when stuck in bed for days at a time, so I do use Prime Video too, although increasingly, I'm struggling to find much of interest to watch. That said, I am quite enjoying the second season of 'Reacher'.

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    Re: Amazon Prime to have ads 2024

    I will put a note in the calendar and stick to it. Will see how it turns out.

    I too am enjoying Reacher. I have noticed more and more things I wouldn't mind watching on Prime are actually showing on the freevie thing or whatever it is where there are ads. So I don't bother
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    Re: Amazon Prime to have ads 2024

    Though to echo above I am also moving back to blu rays/dvd. At least I know they will always be available, be in good quality and won't have adverts stuck in the middle of them
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    Re: Amazon Prime to have ads 2024

    And again, companies come up with a way to kerb piracy, and then, due to greed, will introduce piracy again...

    I only ever, originally paid for Prime to get the free delivery as it was worth it vs the amount of stuff I was buying on Amazon, then they introduced all these other features that are now ingrained into the household, now they want to start chucking adverts at me, certainly wont be paying extra to get rid of them...

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    Re: Amazon Prime to have ads 2024

    Quote Originally Posted by MrJim View Post
    Boredom is also a major problem when stuck in bed for days at a time.....
    How dare you Sir, I don't even know you!

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    Re: Amazon Prime to have ads 2024

    Quote Originally Posted by b0redom View Post
    How dare you Sir, I don't even know you!

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    Re: Amazon Prime to have ads 2024

    Have these streaming services forgotten why we adopted them in the first place?

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    Re: Amazon Prime to have ads 2024

    Prices going up, ads being added. This is why I am glad I didn't sell off my blu rays
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    Re: Amazon Prime to have ads 2024

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoonigan View Post
    Have these streaming services forgotten why we adopted them in the first place?
    It's possible those at/near the top have, but in reality all they'll really care about is the money they can make for the shareholders.

    If they think they can get more money by doing something, they'll try it. Even if they're wrong, those at the top will still probably get a big bonus for themselves personally, even if they end up leaving as a result of that decision.

    Or at least that's the way things seem to go, based on news reports after things that companies do that the rest of us would say is a dumb idea from the very start (unless it gets a big enough backlash that they have to cancel their plans... until they can sneak it in when nobody is looking... allegedly).

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    Re: Amazon Prime to have ads 2024

    Anyone that knows me won't be surprised at my reaction to this. Watching adverts is absolutely not going to happen, and nor will I be blackmailed into paying even £3/month to avoid them.

    It's not the £3, TBH. It's the way they're doing this.

    If they'd said "Sorry, but costs are going up and we're having to increase Prime membershp by £2.99" I would probably have shrugged, and just carried on. But this? Oh, no. I'll cancel not only Prime, but the Music and Kindle Unlimited options too, which'll free up, what, £25-30/month or so.

    I've got a couple of voucher codes that came with hardware for, IIRC, 6 months of Apple Music and 3 months of Tidal, so ..... yup, quite.

    But I've also spent a LOT of time, and no small amount of money, putting in what's now at something like 120TB of disk storage, and digitising my entire music collection (that being CDs, LPs etc) and am well underway digitising my, oh, I think 2500+ (last time I counted) DVD collection. Hence, all that disk space.

    Do I really need Prime? Nope. I might give Netflix and/or others a try for a bit, especially on the free trial offers. Then, a month here, a month there, jumping around. But mainly, I'l make do with my 'little' personal digitised content service (on Emby and, currently, Plex).

    I'll still buy stuff at Amazon from time to time, including DVD fims and boxed sets, but do I really still need Prime, even for delivery? No, not really. The only reason it's still active is, essentially, inertia. This will cure me of that, without doubt. And if something on DVD catches my eye, well, that's why I prefer to buy my content on media I can keep. And I have a pretty good range of the media I do own available via Emby, etc.

    So, thank you Amazon, for the ice-cold shower this policy is. It's jolted me right out of my inertia, and into cancelling Prime itself, and the other bits. I'll miss the e-book service but hey, they're not even the only provider of that. And most of what I really liked, I've bought anyway, not just relied on the rental. I'm especially fond of the period £0.10p (or was it £0.01) offers on some of my preferred sci-fi series. I've got quite a few of those.

    I can only hope that enough people will choose to do the same that this ends up being a collossal misjudgement by Amazon. But I don't hold out much hope of them caring about those that cancel.

    But for me, the big fail here is not the money but the psychology of this cynical move. It is, IMHO, wholly wrong, and leaves a very unpleasant aftertaste in my mouth, and provokes a visceral reaction. With me, you should've just stuck the £3 on the cost of Prime, Amazon, not tried to blackmail me with adverts. Not that they'll care, of course. But frankly, nor do I, much. Life goes on, and there's other things to worry about rather than 1st World problems like Amazon's subscription policy.

    Bye, Amazon. And ... "thanks for all the fish".
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    Re: Amazon Prime to have ads 2024

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen999 View Post
    But I've also spent a LOT of time, and no small amount of money, putting in what's now at something like 120TB of disk storage, and digitising my entire music collection (that being CDs, LPs etc) and am well underway digitising my, oh, I think 2500+ (last time I counted) DVD collection. Hence, all that disk space.
    The geek in me, and probably others, wants to see this system. That's a lot of home storage!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoonigan View Post
    The geek in me, and probably others, wants to see this system. That's a lot of home storage!
    Nothing fancy. Mostly, two NAS boxes. One, 4-bay with 12TB drives. That's the initial system. But .... how do you back it up? With RAID 5, that's about 34TB of storage. And all that digitising represents a huge time investment so doing it all again if it screws up? Don't fancy that much.

    Hence, second NAS, but 6-bay this time. Either or both can, if need be, be extended with external enclosures. The 6-bay has 18TB drives, currently 4-'off, but easy to extend with extra drives.

    Then, add a couple of largish external USB drives, and that's the total.

    Of course, the 6-bay is newer, a bit faster and more RAM so it's now the primary.

    Backing up is easy. PCs back up to Primary, using Macrium Reflect. Primary NAS backs up to secondary automatically. The secondary starts up on a scheduler, Primary backs itself up, and the secondary shuts down when backup complete.

    Backing up reliably, but with minimum effort from me, was essential so I just had to organise what's stored where, works out a suitable 3-layer scheme, and set it up. Mostly, it runs itself. Which is how I like it.

    So it's pretty mundane really. No fancy gear. Not cheap though. It's gonna take me a while to recoup that in saved Amazon fees .... but a couple of thousand years should do it.
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    Hello! Firstly, happy and joyful New Years Eve 2023 wishes for you all. Boil an egg for me (and have it with truffle salt and pepper if you would, truffle salt is around 8 quid and has transformed my last few day's meals!)...*

    Thanks for the news post AGTDenton . I never really used Prime Video even when I've had various Prime trials active and sometimes forgotten to cancel in time - such as today, where I have a couple of weeks of paid Prime left. I was considering using Prime and paying, for the Video and maybe the free games and the experience of giving a Prime Sub on twitch away to my faves (who should make some money there) --- now I really don't think so, at least for most of 2024, as like many of you no doubt I don't want to see any advertisements on a paid platform**, even as good as they may sound and as well produced as they are. Did you know that for decades some of the best qualified and experienced psychologists have perfected the televisual solution to making you buy something and remember a brand and it's goals for your whole lives potentially? Not just in medicine, nope!

    * YUMMY! Mostly Truffle Salt contains small parts of summer truffles, which are cheaper than the preferred winter ones, and even small amounts add tremendous flavour and smell and taste to meat eggs and really any meal. The shaker I chose after about 35 mins research is Artigiani del Tartufo (90g) made in italy. I will use it and Lo-Salt alone. There are oils and pastes but the pastes go bad early and the oils might cost more as that's an older product area.

    Output, you're completely correct in your post above, the companies exist for their market research and their shareholders, while also for their enjoyment of crowding out any potential competition or simply buying such and integrating it if they can get away with it. Case in point: Adobe had to pay an exit fee and related costs when the USA and UK moved to block a purchase they had planned to buy up a competitor to them totally in recent days and weeks. Things should improve as corporate entities come to embody ethical framework[s] and ecological humanist goals not just vaguely irrelevant economic maxima seeking moves.

    For music, radio and youtube and other things like soundcloud, Juno perhaps, even buying FLAC downloads for under £5 from Ninja Tune UK are really enough. I am spending a lot of time on BBC Radio and yesterday thanks to my Facebook RadioFrance...
    I recently got a year's free symphony.live*** which is video based and classical curated medias, and I am considering Qobuz France or similar when I work out if I want that outgoing regularly alone. Tidal are ok at the moment though respected people within the interweb's HiFi community seem to have moved to La Qobuz East.

    There's always free Google Youtube releases and Twitch for quite up to date or live performance, and even then I have used Patreon to support my faves such as members of Fizz now. If and when I have more income I am happy to spend more on music and video even. This August I dropped my UK TV License, and I don't break those rules here at home, honestly I hadn't really watched the applicable media sources for 3-5 years prior to that saving event, though I had believed I would sometimes enjoy that choice I simply didn't really at all use the license. Money saved!

    Starting to buy BlueRay media (Atonement, Kings Speech... even I decided to collect PS4 work, my first real console) and I think all I may miss is BBC News Video feeds, BBC UK Parliament Channel, Bloomberg, and perhaps the UK Telivised Snooker,, educational content ++ musical shows of the broadcast UK BBC! Channel 4 news also now and some of the good stuff on BBC4. I can work without them. Things went downhill since the end of News of the World BBC2, the production of C4 eurotrash, and even early C5 and perhaps Big Brother Season 2 a fair deal!

    Saracen999 congratulations on your media purchases and local backup solution, it's well described! So potentially some day I could do similar, while living alone and planning to I'm not sure I would require that time's Plex or Emby (would learn that though!). I can see how chopping around subs might be an answer for some, even me perhaps. I like to think that there are avenues soon with Freeview HD streaming coming on the net to do so, though to get that I would need the TV license again and ... well anyway, might have a job lined up, if I am well enough, great outcomes.
    Hoonigan, good morning, thanks for asking Saracen for an overview, many will be very curious like us! I think if I tried a media backup at a home, I would prolly skip the NAS produce (so far afaik) and make enough large system board AMD64 servers to pile the storage into, probably as solid state SATA3 or so... in time, that would cost me. Could avoid RAID spinners that way though as I trust most current SSDs for read at least (hmm!). Macrium products are really nice while I found Hasleo storage backup software which works quite well for me.

    Enjoy your new years with your family readers, I certainly have and did at Y2000 (a strangers kiss even hehe) so you know, keep it up?

    Luke's Floatplane, part of Linus Tech Tips the small to medium Canadian enterprise that's really pushing to be a modern day popular media platform and world famous, is an example of a media streaming platform that's currently paid and open to any content providers while I wouldn't expect adverts on it. Might try it soon.

    *** this is a facebook advert link I saw and good luck with that. They only ask that you would pay $9.95 in year two for another year - clearly they require clients and lots of them!
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