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    time to repent?

    ....sorry asked to remove by my employers
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    Re: time to repent?

    A search for them on google and the law society comes up with nothing so far.

    Also if the isp has done this without a court order it leaves them in a legally precarious situation. as downloading a torrent does not constitute piracy this could leave them foul of the data protection act. but please elaborate. also if anyone would chime in with there thought that would be great
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    Re: time to repent?

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    Last edited by j1979; 10-03-2008 at 01:10 AM.

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    Re: time to repent?

    ISP's only hand over customer details when a court order demands, this is normal and this isn't new. They wouldn't be handing over information on any person that has used bottorrent period.

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    Re: time to repent?

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    Last edited by j1979; 09-03-2008 at 02:43 PM.

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    Re: time to repent?

    because of bit-torrents total lack of privacy, honey pots are quite common.

    This is where they know full well the torrent you're downloading is ilegal, mainly because it was they who set it up, they then get your name and address from your ISP (with court order) and send you a scary letter, hoping that you will then see the error of your ways.
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    Re: time to repent?

    I've read quite a lot about people around the Web getting letters from this company. Most people tend to be just ignoring them flat out, guessing that the company has set up dodgy torrents in order to snare people in and scam them for moneys. This is the first I've heard of an ISP being 'requested'.

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    Re: time to repent?

    Quote Originally Posted by j1979 View Post
    well yes they already have handed over details. that was my undersatnding of the meeting, thats why i posted.
    Your understanding would be incorrect.

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    Re: time to repent?

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    Last edited by j1979; 09-03-2008 at 02:43 PM. Reason: see above

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    Re: time to repent?

    It's Davenport Lyons - Davenport Lyons

    That took me all of one Google...

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    Re: time to repent?

    Quote Originally Posted by schmunk View Post
    It's Davenport Lyons - Davenport Lyons

    That took me all of one Google...
    They sound like a bunch of extortionists to me using the same tactics as the us music industry has failed to use and judging by there record they have yet to take anyone to court so if you do get a letter i think you can safely ignore it
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    Re: time to repent?

    Quote Originally Posted by j1979 View Post
    what was your understang of the meeting then?
    Media company/industry body hires a company to gather IP's of people on torrents of copyright material, they pass them on this firm who gets the court orders.
    Anything else would be illegal and wrong.

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    Re: time to repent?

    I hope not!!! I have been using it lately quite a bit

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    Re: time to repent?

    Quote Originally Posted by EzyRyder View Post
    I hope not!!! I have been using it lately quite a bit
    You have nothing to worry about unless you have been illegally downloading copyright material.
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    Re: time to repent?

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    You have nothing to worry about unless you have been illegally downloading copyright material.
    That's true but it does kind of go against the whole innocent until proven guilty thing!
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    Re: time to repent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Salazaar View Post
    That's true but it does kind of go against the whole innocent until proven guilty thing!
    If the assumption is that anyone using torrents for illegal downloads, then yes that is wrong - however an allegation would still need to be proved in court. In practice I would expect the process to be


    An organisation gets information about your IP address from some source or other (perhaps a seized computer that has copyright material on it)

    It then applies for a warrant to a court to get the ISP to release their logs andabout your activity. i don't believe that an organisation can get the details (or thyat and ISP could release those details) without reasonable suspiciion which would lead to a warrant... but I am not a lawyer!
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