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    Draytek Vigor 2800 and Be*

    Anyone here got the above combination of ISP and modem/router? I should be switched tomorrow and have just taken delivery of my Bebox, but I've heard all kinds of nasties about the maximum synch speed being around 7.5Mb, which is only slightly more than I get with my current ISP. I'm keen to use my Draytek as it's been a good piece of kit, plus I'd like to keep the BeBox as a reserve 'chute so to speak.

    Anyone with any experience who cares to comment? I see that the Vigor 2820 is fully compatible, but... I'd rather not splash out £158.00 + delivery on a 2820n unless I really have to.

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    Re: Draytek Vigor 2800 and Be*

    With the draytek 2800 router you will be lucky if you can get it to go to 15 or 16mb I think their is a compatability issue with the chipset.

    I have the 2800 but bought a Netgear router in the end.

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    Re: Draytek Vigor 2800 and Be*

    to be honest I'll be lucky to get that - I've had a root around the internets and requested that when they put the line live tomorrow they apply profile 20 (reduces INP to 1) which should seemingly help. Looks like I need a box with a Broadcom chipset to get the best out of Be* though.

    Methinks I shall be picking up a Vigor 2820N at the weekend and seeing if there's anyone around here interested in my 2800 in that case.

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    Re: Draytek Vigor 2800 and Be*

    Quote Originally Posted by Splash View Post
    to be honest I'll be lucky to get that - I've had a root around the internets and requested that when they put the line live tomorrow they apply profile 20 (reduces INP to 1) which should seemingly help. Looks like I need a box with a Broadcom chipset to get the best out of Be* though.

    Methinks I shall be picking up a Vigor 2820N at the weekend and seeing if there's anyone around here interested in my 2800 in that case.
    I may be interested in taking that 2800 off your hands if its the 2800G, send me a private message if your interested in getting rid and we'll talk money

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    Re: Draytek Vigor 2800 and Be*

    I'm on O2 with the box, which i would imagine is similar to the Be box? I had some teething trouble with it to begin with but its fine now its been up for months I can't remember the last time I had to restart it. I've not heard anything about it limiting your speed but the one thing I will say is that it does lack features and the GUI is a bit of a maze to find options in. If you want one thats more highly configurable the Draytek wouldn't be a bad choice but you could also go for a netgear or Linksys and use some of the alternative firmwares, there is a couple of really good linux based ones for the linksys there is a thread knocking around some where about it.

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    Re: Draytek Vigor 2800 and Be*

    i can only assume his comment about speed limiting is in reference to the draytek and not the bebox, because it may be crap but iv never heard of it doing that

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    Re: Draytek Vigor 2800 and Be*

    My 2800G is now a paperweight. It does not work well with Be* at all. The BeBox is fine but gives you very little to configure. The Netgear DG834GT works well too.

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    Re: Draytek Vigor 2800 and Be*

    Or get a Linksys AM200 modem and WRT54GL router, flash with Tomato or DD-WRT and bam, winner. Also if you play games, ask Be to put fastpath on your line and it will lower you ping to servers (disables interleaving).
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    Re: Draytek Vigor 2800 and Be*

    Quote Originally Posted by MadduckUK View Post
    i can only assume his comment about speed limiting is in reference to the draytek and not the bebox, because it may be crap but iv never heard of it doing that
    Correct - the maximum rate you can get out of the 2800 with the default setup is around 7.5Mb, but that's seemingly something to do with Be* operating using an extension of the ADSL2 standard, which the 2800 doesn't support.

    I think I'm sold on a 2820N to be honest - I was considering upgrading before, and now I have a real reason to do it (rather than just for the multiple wireless VLANs). I'll be sticking with the Draytek brand though: I've played with Tomato in the past and... I was less than impressed with the stability , also it doesn't have featureset I require (VPN is a must have) and Draytek support has never been less than legendary.
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    Re: Draytek Vigor 2800 and Be*

    please let us know how u get on with the 2820n, im interested in one as well

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    Re: Draytek Vigor 2800 and Be*

    Quote Originally Posted by !TIMMY! View Post
    Or get a Linksys AM200 modem and WRT54GL router, flash with Tomato or DD-WRT and bam, winner. Also if you play games, ask Be to put fastpath on your line and it will lower you ping to servers (disables interleaving).
    Is what sort of what I refer to above.

    O2 use Be's infrastructure, is it possible to get fastpath with O2? I've not heard of that before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by !TIMMY! View Post
    Also if you play games, ask Be to put fastpath on your line and it will lower you ping to servers (disables interleaving).
    Just note that Fastpath is only available on the Be Pro package and not the two lesser packages.

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    Re: Draytek Vigor 2800 and Be*

    I've gone with BePro, hopefully I'll be able to use Annex M. Not too fussed about fastpath (more interested in a stable line than low ping), but will see how I get on.

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    Re: Draytek Vigor 2800 and Be*

    Quote Originally Posted by Taz View Post
    Just note that Fastpath is only available on the Be Pro package and not the two lesser packages.
    Funny that I got fast path on unlimted I think your facts are wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x2o View Post
    Funny that I got fast path on unlimted I think your facts are wrong.
    Indeed, I was wrong.

    You can get Fastpath enabled on Be Pro and Be Unlimited. It's Annex M that I was confused with, which is only available on Be Pro (Annex M is where you give up a bit of your downstream bandwidth for a faster upstream bandwidth). Be Unlimited and Be Value only allow Annex A connections.

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    Re: Draytek Vigor 2800 and Be*

    I guess they keep changing it over time I know the prices for 8mb was dropped to £8 for the rest of the year which is cool.

    Anyway good luck with connecting to BE I get good stats on my Netgear DG834N

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