VM Traffic Management is a joke! Controling gaming pings?!

[spac3d]

We all have our good and bad things to say about VM, and sure, if your lucky enough to be in a area where you aren't getting throttled, then its great for you.

However, I have noticed that VM have been effecting gaming pings, outside of 'Traffic Management' hours, and i'm pretty sure it isnt in the T&C's. For about 2 weeks now, at around 5-6pm, the ping goes from 30ms to a steady 150-180ms. It's clear that from this quote that it's in practice?

Ok,

As a certain someone has nagged me about this...and others wanting to know where the future holds for VM as far as this goes.

As i have mentioned a few weeks or so back VM have been trialling application throttling/management in lab 3 (for those interested, this is just a name to represent the area where the trial is going on, not an actual lab)

Currently through the trial Usenet ports (including SSL) are throttled (reducing speeds down to 512k)

This, is, as far as one is aware going to be used for both in and out of peak hours for whoever they see "fit" as a heavy user.

I'm sure some of you noticed "Allot" was mentioned in another thread on here and i've had a few people asking me what this is.

It's currently what VM are using to trial application/throttling/management and is to be deployed across the VM network fully sometime either third quarter 2008 or first quarter 2009, the dates are unknown/rough ideas right now as things are being kept quiet over @ VM headquarters.

Now before any of you shout at me or anything i wasnt going to release this information until *certain people within VM* thought it would be amusing to try and release information about me on certain sites, and no this is not revenge on them, but i have had a few people asking me to release this information.

Anyway...you can view more about Allot over at http://www.allot.com/index.php?optio...&id=2&Itemid=4

I would note there is ALSO a seperate trial going on while controls ports speciifcally for games (Wow etc) which affect the pings for said games.

I will add more information to this thread over the coming weeks (i have ALOT going on right now, so dont moan about lack of info just yet)

Just to add, this will be a part of their FUP and completely seperate to STM.

./discuss

[Jay]

lol... VM really are in trouble. I have never seen so many posts and threads complaining about anything ever before.

[Neo_VR]

Think yourself lucky your not on BT... currently i get throttled to 0.5mb between 6-midnight.
You never really appreciate how the web has changed until you see "old skool" half meg broadband vs web2.0

[moogle]

Ouch, getting worse and worse for VM. I guess Internet is getting **** for those who don't live near the exchange or not in an LLU enabled area. I bet this is because of the 50mbit they're rolling out soon.

[Jay]

the 50Mb will bring the network to its knees.

[cleaverlch]

So they are planning a 50Mb network in name only?

[spac3d]

How in the hell do they expect to handle 50mb? Oh wait, it's "up to 50mb" isnt it? SO that could mean 512k. LOL.

What a joke basically, bye bye VM as a provider for this household.

[Hicks12]

That sucks, as soon as virgin start controlling my pings its straight out the window and they can kiss their contract goodbye. Be* etc better get their act together and give me cable

[kalniel]

Isn't that just likely to be contention?

[Kumagoro]

Can VM use the up to excuse... The reason that its generally accepted on ADSL is that BT cant
guarantee the quality of the line. Where as VM dont have that problem.

[moogle]

Can VM use the up to excuse... The reason that its generally accepted on ADSL is that BT cant
guarantee the quality of the line. Where as VM dont have that problem.

Well they'll have to as the speeds people are getting clearly aren't the right speeds and they can't be throttled 24/7. From what was said cable can provide the full speeds anytime unlike ADSL, just that they choose to throttle it, seems not eh.

[Jay]

yes, the cable can but the exchange can't

[jamin]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06...ttling_denial/

Nuff said..

[Marenghi]

why would any ISP throttle game traffic? playing an online game does not require huge amounts of bandwidth so i cannot see why they would do such a thing. throttling p2p traffic (what they have in place now) is more logical

[Agent]

50Mb is built on DOCTIS3 (IIRC), so should be separate to their current stuff.

[spac3d]

For about 3+ weeks now I have had a consistently CRAP ping. It's always pinging 155-157ms - if you can’t tell me that isn’t a logical, calculated hardware throttling system in place, then please, lay it out like a deck of cards for me!

Furthermore I think that there is TOO MUCH room for them to do what they want in regards to Throttling Management, as there is so much ambiguity in it for them to hide behind. They can do what they want, the regulator ars are obviously not doing their job as people are having issues. Take the point raised earlier, about their "up to" policy.

The only reason I haven’t seen my 20MB EXTRA LARGE broadband connection is probably due to the fact that my other 2 house mates download all the time, which in modern society should be accounted for. The hours and what type of packets VM throttle certainly are, to quote CEO Neil Berkett, "a load of bollucks!”