Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 16 of 45

Thread: Running a Cat5e Cable Outisde

  1. #1
    Senior Member funke_munke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    684
    Thanks
    41
    Thanked
    27 times in 25 posts
    • funke_munke's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3
      • CPU:
      • i7 2600k + Noctua NH-U12F @ stock
      • Memory:
      • 8gb Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz low profile 1.35v @ stock
      • Storage:
      • 128gb Crucial M4 SSD + 3TB WD Red + Backup drive
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire HD6870
      • PSU:
      • Corsair 750w HX
      • Case:
      • Corsair 700d
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 Home Premium
      • Monitor(s):
      • 22" Samsung 226bw

    Running a Cat5e Cable Outisde

    Right, bit of a strange one this. Currently moved back home with my father for a while and lacking the internet. We don't even have a phone line (hence why I haven't been very active as of late). Now, we live next door to my grandparents, and they have the internet although never use it, so what I am about to propose is not a problem. I want to get the internet on my computer in my fathers house, and I need to do it CHEAPLY, e.g no wireless (the signal probably wouldn't go through the old thick brick walls anyway) and no getting a phoneline installed. The only way I could think of doing this would be to run a cable from my bedroom, out of the window and to the modem next door (probably about 10-15m max).

    My question is: is this safe? For my computer, the wire and the equipment next door? If not is there a special type of cable for the job? Is Cat5e even the one to go for? I'm not that up on my networking .

    I saw this on Scan: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/20m-F...r-under-carpet) which looks good for being able to close my windows!

    Any suggestions are appreciated and welcome! Help a brother out, living in the valleys is bad enough without being able to get online, especially when you work nights so no sod is around when you are awake!

    Thanks in advance
    "I Don't mind Lobster. It's like you could, you know... Punch... A lobster. I wouldn't eat anything I couldn't punch"


  2. #2
    I'm ITX
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Liverpool
    Posts
    2,415
    Thanks
    82
    Thanked
    159 times in 148 posts

    Re: Running a Cat5e Cable Outisde

    Cat 6 is better shielded, some of that in a conduit to protect it outside and you should be ok

  3. Received thanks from:

    funke_munke (10-04-2009)

  4. #3
    Senior Member funke_munke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    684
    Thanks
    41
    Thanked
    27 times in 25 posts
    • funke_munke's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3
      • CPU:
      • i7 2600k + Noctua NH-U12F @ stock
      • Memory:
      • 8gb Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz low profile 1.35v @ stock
      • Storage:
      • 128gb Crucial M4 SSD + 3TB WD Red + Backup drive
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire HD6870
      • PSU:
      • Corsair 750w HX
      • Case:
      • Corsair 700d
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 Home Premium
      • Monitor(s):
      • 22" Samsung 226bw

    Re: Running a Cat5e Cable Outisde

    Do you know any links where I can get some decent stuff? Alot of people are talking about lightning hitting the wire but I have a massive surge protector that takes networking cables, and was planning on unplugging it when not in use so I'm pretty sure it's a non-issue.
    "I Don't mind Lobster. It's like you could, you know... Punch... A lobster. I wouldn't eat anything I couldn't punch"


  5. #4
    Senior Moment blueball's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Edinburgh
    Posts
    2,426
    Thanks
    846
    Thanked
    379 times in 294 posts
    • blueball's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus Z390A
      • CPU:
      • i9-9900KS
      • Memory:
      • Kingston 64GB (2x32GB) DDR4 2400MHz
      • Storage:
      • 2TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe PCIE M.2 plus Samsung 860 EVO 4TB SSD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • ASUS TUF RTX 3080 Ti GAMING OC
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX850 850 W Full Modular 80 Plus Platinum
      • Case:
      • Corsair Carbide 330R Ultra Silent Midi Tower
      • Operating System:
      • Win 10 Pro x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • IIYAMA 3461WQ IPS 34" 3440x1440 plus BenQ GW2765HT IPS 27" 2560x1440
      • Internet:
      • Plusnet 28Mb

    Re: Running a Cat5e Cable Outisde

    Cat5e will be fine just ensure that there is surge protection at BOTH ends!

    You can run CAT 5 up to 100m without probs (beyond that you require switches/repeaters)
    Rgds,

    BB
    Hexus Trust here and here

  6. Received thanks from:

    funke_munke (10-04-2009)

  7. #5
    Senior Member funke_munke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    684
    Thanks
    41
    Thanked
    27 times in 25 posts
    • funke_munke's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3
      • CPU:
      • i7 2600k + Noctua NH-U12F @ stock
      • Memory:
      • 8gb Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz low profile 1.35v @ stock
      • Storage:
      • 128gb Crucial M4 SSD + 3TB WD Red + Backup drive
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire HD6870
      • PSU:
      • Corsair 750w HX
      • Case:
      • Corsair 700d
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 Home Premium
      • Monitor(s):
      • 22" Samsung 226bw

    Re: Running a Cat5e Cable Outisde

    That's cool cheers blueball, although I wasn't worried so much about distance, more about the effects of rain etc?
    "I Don't mind Lobster. It's like you could, you know... Punch... A lobster. I wouldn't eat anything I couldn't punch"


  8. #6
    DDY
    DDY is online now
    Senior Member DDY's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    2,790
    Thanks
    177
    Thanked
    597 times in 412 posts
    • DDY's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASRock Z390M Pro 4
      • CPU:
      • i5 9600k
      • Memory:
      • 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz
      • Storage:
      • Adata SX8200 NVME 1TB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • RX 5700
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic Focus Gold 550W
      • Operating System:
      • Win 7 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell U2715H

    Re: Running a Cat5e Cable Outisde

    I've done something similar a long time ago, wired up a garden shed to the house LAN and electricity. But it's disused now after wireless became affordable.

    To keep the cables from the elements e.g. wind ,rain, sun, tornadoes; I buried them 30cm under the lawn protected by a length of PVC conduit sealed at both ends with IP65 rated boxes.

    The cable used is shielded CAT5 and roughly 15m long connected to a hub on the house side. Worked flawlessly.

    You could get away without conduit if you use external armoured CAT5 cabling, expensive though.
    Last edited by DDY; 10-04-2009 at 01:29 AM.

  9. Received thanks from:

    funke_munke (10-04-2009)

  10. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Posts
    655
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    22 times in 22 posts

    Re: Running a Cat5e Cable Outisde

    Just use a regular cable, it'll be fine. I've run standard network cables outside for years and I've yet to actually have to replace one.

  11. Received thanks from:

    funke_munke (10-04-2009)

  12. #8
    Senior Member funke_munke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    684
    Thanks
    41
    Thanked
    27 times in 25 posts
    • funke_munke's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3
      • CPU:
      • i7 2600k + Noctua NH-U12F @ stock
      • Memory:
      • 8gb Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz low profile 1.35v @ stock
      • Storage:
      • 128gb Crucial M4 SSD + 3TB WD Red + Backup drive
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire HD6870
      • PSU:
      • Corsair 750w HX
      • Case:
      • Corsair 700d
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 Home Premium
      • Monitor(s):
      • 22" Samsung 226bw

    Re: Running a Cat5e Cable Outisde

    Cheers guys, I can't bury the cable as it will be running between the upper floors of the houses. Anyone have any links to some decent shielded stuff? Scan and the usuals dont seem to do it. Also does anyone know of a surge protector just for Cat cable? Don't really want to splash on another £30 surge protector! Other than that I'm just gonna go for it, it's only going to be out there about 6 months so it should be fine!
    "I Don't mind Lobster. It's like you could, you know... Punch... A lobster. I wouldn't eat anything I couldn't punch"


  13. #9
    Senior Member Blastuk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Newcastle
    Posts
    984
    Thanks
    93
    Thanked
    66 times in 64 posts
    • Blastuk's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte Z77X-D3H
      • CPU:
      • Intel Core i5 3570
      • Memory:
      • Corsair Vengeance LP 4x4GB @ 1600mhz
      • Storage:
      • Samsung 840 Pro 250GB, Samsung 850 EVO 500GB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • GeForce GTX 970
      • PSU:
      • OCZ ZS 650W
      • Case:
      • Antec Eleven Hundred
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 64bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell 2209WA 22" + Dell U2412M 24"
      • Internet:
      • Virgin 152Mb

    Re: Running a Cat5e Cable Outisde

    there are no surge protectors capable of saving you from a direct hit from lightning.. just read the fine print on whatever you buy, i doubt it would help you very much...
    waste of money imo.

  14. #10
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    57
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    5 times in 5 posts

    Re: Running a Cat5e Cable Outisde

    No it's not safe! Bear in mind both buildings are likely to have different power supplies and different ground potentials which means you may get current flowing through the data cable which is bad for network performance and also bad for your kit if it fries it...... You need to break the copper link between the two buildings either by using fibre (doesn't conduct) or some kind of data line isolation units which break the single run of copper but will still allow the passing of data. If using copper then surge protection at both ends are a good idea as well.

    You can't just connect two buildings with a direct run of copper as there's chance of kit failure, fire, electrocution etc. Well you can, but it's a very bad idea.......

  15. #11
    Does he need a reason? Funkstar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Aberdeen
    Posts
    19,874
    Thanks
    630
    Thanked
    965 times in 816 posts
    • Funkstar's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte EG45M-DS2H
      • CPU:
      • Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83GHz)
      • Memory:
      • 8GB OCZ PC2-6400C5 800MHz Quad Channel
      • Storage:
      • 650GB Western Digital Caviar Blue
      • Graphics card(s):
      • 512MB ATI Radeon HD4550
      • PSU:
      • Antec 350W 80+ Efficient PSU
      • Case:
      • Antec NSK1480 Slim Mini Desktop Case
      • Operating System:
      • Vista Ultimate 64bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell 2407 + 2408 monitors
      • Internet:
      • Zen 8mb

    Re: Running a Cat5e Cable Outisde

    Personally, I would just run a length of Cat5e and not worry about it.

    Sure there is potential for issues, but I suspect the chances of that are very small

    We have a bundle of Cat5 going from our main office accross to a large portacabin, then onto the warehouse. This is just a bundle of cables tie wrapped to a length of braided steel wire, string between the two buildings. Been like this for about 5 years now, not a single issue.

    It will probably get changes this summer, but thats only because we are extending the offices and moving all the network equipment to a new room in the building. Probably running more cables as well.

  16. #12
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Posts
    281
    Thanks
    40
    Thanked
    10 times in 10 posts
    • Antagram's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASRock H97M-ITX/ac
      • CPU:
      • Intel i5-4570S
      • Memory:
      • Crucial Ballistix Tactical 8GB 1600MHz
      • Storage:
      • Intel 335 Series 180GB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Zotac 750 Ti
      • PSU:
      • Silverstone ST30SF
      • Case:
      • Silverstone SG05W
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • HP Pavilion 24XW
      • Internet:
      • 40Mb max

    Re: Running a Cat5e Cable Outisde

    Is it a terrace or semi detached house? So could keep cable indoors by going through left space.

  17. #13
    Does he need a reason? Funkstar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Aberdeen
    Posts
    19,874
    Thanks
    630
    Thanked
    965 times in 816 posts
    • Funkstar's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte EG45M-DS2H
      • CPU:
      • Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83GHz)
      • Memory:
      • 8GB OCZ PC2-6400C5 800MHz Quad Channel
      • Storage:
      • 650GB Western Digital Caviar Blue
      • Graphics card(s):
      • 512MB ATI Radeon HD4550
      • PSU:
      • Antec 350W 80+ Efficient PSU
      • Case:
      • Antec NSK1480 Slim Mini Desktop Case
      • Operating System:
      • Vista Ultimate 64bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell 2407 + 2408 monitors
      • Internet:
      • Zen 8mb

    Re: Running a Cat5e Cable Outisde

    Both funke_munke and funkymunky in one thread. Man this is confusing!!

  18. #14
    bored out of my tiny mind malfunction's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Lurking
    Posts
    3,923
    Thanks
    191
    Thanked
    187 times in 163 posts
    • malfunction's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte G1.Sniper (with daft heatsinks and annoying Killer NIC)
      • CPU:
      • Xeon X5670 (6 core LGA 1366) @ 4.4GHz
      • Memory:
      • 48GB DDR3 1600 (6 * 8GB)
      • Storage:
      • 1TB 840 Evo + 1TB 850 Evo
      • Graphics card(s):
      • 290X
      • PSU:
      • Antec True Power New 750W
      • Case:
      • Cooltek W2
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell U2715H

    Re: Running a Cat5e Cable Outisde

    Quote Originally Posted by Antagram View Post
    Is it a terrace or semi detached house? So could keep cable indoors by going through left space.
    I was going to say the same thing - if the houses are attached you could just go up into the loft and back down again.

  19. #15
    Senior Member watercooled's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    11,459
    Thanks
    1,539
    Thanked
    1,024 times in 868 posts

    Re: Running a Cat5e Cable Outisde

    I wouldn't worry about lightning strikes or surge protectors. If lightning can make it from the sky to the cable, it can bridge across the surge protector to wherever its going to go so really don't bother getting one for that reason. Even so the chance of that happening is incredibly tiny - it would much rather go for a lamppost or a tree but that's net exactly how it works anyway. Conclusion - don't worry about it. I can't think how running copper between houses would be a problem but I'm not entirely sure. Switches/NICs have their own voltage regulation circuitry so I don't know how potential difference between two points would be a problem even if the mains voltage was different. I would avoid running it through a window if possible because closing the window on it would likely damage it over time - running through the loft is a great idea if it's possible.
    Last edited by watercooled; 10-04-2009 at 12:14 PM.

  20. #16
    Senior Moment blueball's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Edinburgh
    Posts
    2,426
    Thanks
    846
    Thanked
    379 times in 294 posts
    • blueball's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus Z390A
      • CPU:
      • i9-9900KS
      • Memory:
      • Kingston 64GB (2x32GB) DDR4 2400MHz
      • Storage:
      • 2TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe PCIE M.2 plus Samsung 860 EVO 4TB SSD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • ASUS TUF RTX 3080 Ti GAMING OC
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX850 850 W Full Modular 80 Plus Platinum
      • Case:
      • Corsair Carbide 330R Ultra Silent Midi Tower
      • Operating System:
      • Win 10 Pro x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • IIYAMA 3461WQ IPS 34" 3440x1440 plus BenQ GW2765HT IPS 27" 2560x1440
      • Internet:
      • Plusnet 28Mb

    Re: Running a Cat5e Cable Outisde

    Quote Originally Posted by funkymunky View Post
    No it's not safe! Bear in mind both buildings are likely to have different power supplies and different ground potentials which means you may get current flowing through the data cable which is bad for network performance and also bad for your kit if it fries it......
    You are not running mains voltages over cat5, you are running computer level voltages. If he was running POE then that might be a different case.
    Rgds,

    BB
    Hexus Trust here and here

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Monster threaten Blue Jeans Cable
    By Funkstar in forum Consumer Electronics
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 05-05-2008, 10:21 PM
  2. Corsair HX520 - 3x SATA power cable
    By Andeh13 in forum Corsair.care@HEXUS
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 15-04-2008, 08:09 PM
  3. Western Digital Secure Connect Serial ATA Cable
    By johnny02004976 in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 18-03-2006, 10:47 PM
  4. Female-Female Ethernet Cable
    By ajbrun in forum Networking and Broadband
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 02-02-2005, 11:06 AM
  5. Cat5e Cable
    By Stringent in forum Networking and Broadband
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 12-10-2003, 12:35 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •