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    Billion Router: ports and Hyperlobby

    Lo dudes

    I've just purcahsed a second hand Billion router (BiPAC 7402VGO) from one of our members, and it's really quite nice.

    I've sussed virtual servers, so I can get Team Speak to run on it now. And Firewall Packet filtering is easy to find and use... but I can't get Hyperlobby to work on it.

    Up to now I've always just opened port 21000 in and out on TCP and UDP and it's worked... and I've assigned my PC's static IP to host games.

    But with this router, I can't get Hyperlobby to connect online at all unless I turn OFF the firewall. Then ot works immeditately, but that's no use. Want a firewall.

    So, does anyone know if it's possible to ADD a .exe to the firewall accpetable list? hlpro.exe and aping.exe need access but I can't find that option, which I'm not suprised about as it's normally a port number issue.

    Any help would be great.. thanks

    (ps the Draytek Vigor I have doesn't have an issue with this at all. I only need to open the 21000 port for hosting.. for joining hyperlobby, no changes are needed at all, so this is a dfiferent sort of firewall in some way)

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    Re: Billion Router: ports and Hyperlobby

    oh.. and CoDW@W won't connect either

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    Re: Billion Router: ports and Hyperlobby

    and nor will Google Mail on Outlook Express

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    Re: Billion Router: ports and Hyperlobby

    Blimey, thats a wotsit to sort! I can't help as such but want to ask, what happened to the draytek? You have always been a big fan of them!
    Not around too often!

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    Re: Billion Router: ports and Hyperlobby

    Draytek is alive and strong.. but I didn't have a spare router/standby model for when mine or someone's dies.

    Billion have very good reviews and I wanted to try one... and I'm glad I have it, it's very nice. But I can't suss this at all

    It's obviously a business orientated router, with time limits available per IP, and bandwidth restrictions (as per Draytek, very useful to stop Facebook hogging all the bandwidth when trying to play games) and VPN's etc

    I'll not leave draytek... this is a spare.

    But I also don't have an ADSL2+ router, for when Zen moved me over to 21CN and this was for that while I worked on getting a Vigor.

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    Re: Billion Router: ports and Hyperlobby

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
    oh.. and CoDW@W won't connect either
    Have a look-see here for CoDW@W - you need to open a Billion ports

    See what I did there, Billion...ports....ha!
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    Re: Billion Router: ports and Hyperlobby

    hah....

    OK.. sorted Googlemail... two new ports 465 and 995 (as per their pop settings)

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    Re: Billion Router: ports and Hyperlobby

    that's a LOT of ports.

    Why on earth can a draytek manage without this all and still offer a good firewall? What's the difference?

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    Re: Billion Router: ports and Hyperlobby

    No idea why but it looks like a cracking piece of kit - everything locked down unless you say so means there's not that risk of someone inadvertently clicking "Allow" as you get with ZoneAlarm etc.

    No training mode that's ruined when you wrongly allow something through... can't be bad at all.
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    Re: Billion Router: ports and Hyperlobby

    it's an awesome router, but perhaps a little beyond my ability to sort for my gaming needs.

    CoD4 doesn't show any more than 2 servers either, so that obviously needs a load of ports too.

    Question: in opening ports, does that mean they're not checked by the NAT firewall? And if that's so, does that mean that my Draytek has loads of open ports? Cos I'e used an online port checker and it doen't show them open... or even show them at all.

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    Re: Billion Router: ports and Hyperlobby

    The way I understand it is that by opening a port you are giving direct uncontested access through that port to whatever is on the other end - in this case your PC.

    Do you have a software firewall as well?

    Taking the W@W ports as an example;

    Port 80 - HTTP
    443 - HTTPS
    3074 - XBox live / Games for Windows live
    3075 - not sure
    3478 - STUN
    3479 - not sure
    5223 - XMPP over SSL
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    Re: Billion Router: ports and Hyperlobby

    don't use a software firewall... thats what the router is for

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    Re: Billion Router: ports and Hyperlobby

    would you like to buy it off me...?

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    Re: Billion Router: ports and Hyperlobby

    Haha! I'm confused just reading about it.

    The GUI shots on the port forward site look pretty enticing, much more exciting than the DG834GT.

    I'm happy with my idiot-proof Kaspersky for now. I'll take the Draytek if you accept buttons and fluff.
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    Re: Billion Router: ports and Hyperlobby

    Ooooh that looks a nice bit of kit.....

    Swapsies for an old Draytek 2600plus ?

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    Re: Billion Router: ports and Hyperlobby

    Quote Originally Posted by gss03 View Post
    Ooooh that looks a nice bit of kit.....

    Swapsies for an old Draytek 2600plus ?
    if that were wireless I'd say yes... I have a 2600G and I know it inside out.

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