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    BT Socket Wiring

    Ok, my house is being renovated at the moment - its been rewired and had CAT5e installed throughout. However, the BT points need moving.

    Rather than pay someone £80 (actual quote) to come and move a socket I want to do it myself. Can anyone advise?

    From what I can tell there doesnt seem to be a master socket??? The house hasn't really been touched/updated for years....

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    Re: BT Socket Wiring

    The master socket is where the line from the street first enters your house, it is BT property and you're not really allowed to modify it. That's not to say you can't if you really wanted to though..

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    Re: BT Socket Wiring

    All I want to do is put in a socket under the stairs for the router.

    I guess I can run an extension around the outside of the house? How would i do that? Whats the wiring standard?

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    Re: BT Socket Wiring

    How about something like this - one end plugs into your elusive master socket, you run the cable (hidden or otherwise) to where you want the other point and screw it to the wall.

    I've done a few of these recently, all trouble free.
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    Re: BT Socket Wiring

    A little reference here: http://www.wppltd.demon.co.uk/WPP/Wi...telephone.html

    If your socket is anything like ours, you only get 2 wires in a pair for each phone line you have (2 phone lines = 2 pairs = 4 wires)

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    Re: BT Socket Wiring

    If your socket is anything like ours, you only get 2 wires in a pair for each phone line you have (2 phone lines = 2 pairs = 4 wires)

    Not really sure what you mean by this. All telephone sockets have 4 wires, a pair to speak and a pair to listen. You just daisy chain the sockets.

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    Re: BT Socket Wiring

    Quote Originally Posted by s_kinton View Post
    All I want to do is put in a socket under the stairs for the router.

    I guess I can run an extension around the outside of the house? How would i do that? Whats the wiring standard?
    The two incoming wires from the BT line go to the master socket which contains some surge suppression and the bell capacitor which brings out three wires - a common line, a line for speech, and .the ring wire used by some legacy equipment. The master socket should be fitted by BT and should have a BT logo on it. You should not tamper with it.

    However you can run your own extensions. For full compatibility you should run all three wires, but as your router won't need a ring wire, you can just run the two wires from socket connection 2 and 5. In fact all the extensions can be wired that way, and that reduces the risk of interference pick up that could reduce your broadband speeds. However older telephone equipment won't ring with that configuration.

    Quote Originally Posted by bogart View Post
    If your socket is anything like ours, you only get 2 wires in a pair for each phone line you have (2 phone lines = 2 pairs = 4 wires)

    Not really sure what you mean by this. All telephone sockets have 4 wires, a pair to speak and a pair to listen. You just daisy chain the sockets.
    No - see above. It is only the handset that is likely to use two pairs, one for the microphone, one for the earpiece. The speech signal to and from the telephone instrument is carried over one pair, and in newer telephones with high impedance ringers (pretty much anything made in the last 10 to 15 years) that pair also carries the ringing signal.
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    Re: BT Socket Wiring

    We don't have any ring wires hooked up, digital cordless phone doesn't need it.

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    Re: BT Socket Wiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Blastuk View Post
    We don't have any ring wires hooked up, digital cordless phone doesn't need it.
    No, electronic ringers and high impedance bells don't; as I mentioned, it is only some legacy equipment that needs a separate ring wire.
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    Re: BT Socket Wiring

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    No, electronic ringers and high impedance bells don't; as I mentioned, it is only some legacy equipment that needs a separate ring wire.
    Didn't know that. It's amazing what you can learn on here.

    I had heard/read somewhere that it is better to put your ADSL router/modem as close to your master socket as possible and then use cat5 to run where ever it is your PC is located. Don't know how much difference it actually makes, maybe someone on here can tell me if I imagined this or not.

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    Re: BT Socket Wiring

    tagging for future usage nice info ty

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    Re: BT Socket Wiring

    Quote Originally Posted by pipTheGeek View Post
    Didn't know that. It's amazing what you can learn on here.

    I had heard/read somewhere that it is better to put your ADSL router/modem as close to your master socket as possible and then use cat5 to run where ever it is your PC is located. Don't know how much difference it actually makes, maybe someone on here can tell me if I imagined this or not.
    Absolutely the best thing to do! Best solution is to have the router connected to the master socket and have no extensions anywhere, if at all possible, and run cat5e to anywhere you need it.

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    Re: BT Socket Wiring

    Quote Originally Posted by killie99 View Post
    Absolutely the best thing to do! Best solution is to have the router connected to the master socket and have no extensions anywhere, if at all possible, and run cat5e to anywhere you need it.
    I have to disagree. The best thing to do is get cable.

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    Re: BT Socket Wiring

    i ran my sockets from the master and done the mod to take of the resistor thing and use cat 6 cabling under the floor and behind walls as it was highly shielded very expensive cat6e that i got a few drums from a friend of a friend

    on adsl2 about 3 or 4 years ago i lived near the bt exchange and with the dmt tool to tweak my adsl router i was downloading at 2.1MB/S

    i was with be* at the time excellent service i could download at that speed 24/7 they never had throttling or anything back then dunno if they do now ...

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