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    My Router Broken?

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    I'll be playing online and all of a sudden, I'll lose my connectivity. The router still shows that it's connected, and when I check with my netbook via wireless, I can still get online. Windows 7 usually drops the network to "unidentified", which as far as I can tell, means it's lost the IP address and it's not receiving a new one from the DCHP on the router. I've tested this by moving the cable from my PC to the netbook, disabling the wireless and seeing whather the netbook can connect. It appears to have the same problem of not getting an IP address assignment either. Only after switching it on and off does it seem to fix the problem. It doesn't happen very often. It used to be weekly at most, but recently it appears to happen daily now. I can only conclude that my router is on its way out (after only 4 years).

    So, I was wondering whather anyone else have any ideas before I shell out for a new router. Also, is there any router in particular someone would recommend? I suppose now might be a good time to get N for a bit of future proofing. I was wondering whether it would be possible to get one that would allow me to throttle connections to various LAN users (should I end up sharing again and I want to "reserve" myself some bandwidth!). However, I would imagine a feature like this would be a bit more expensive.

    Anyway, I would appreciate any help/info on this situation.

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    Re: My Router Broken?

    Netgear DG834GT by any chance?

    Same thing happens to me

    It just dies and becomes inaccessible, only way to get it back is go power cycle it.

    Has no problem with wireless but drops all of the ethernet...
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    Re: My Router Broken?

    Yes, forgot to mention that! I think it's either version 1 or 2. I guess if that's a common problem that I should avoid Netgear? I have great plans for this one when it's replaced (involves a hammer and some "therapy"! ).

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    Re: My Router Broken?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerrard View Post
    Yes, forgot to mention that! I think it's either version 1 or 2. I guess if that's a common problem that I should avoid Netgear? I have great plans for this one when it's replaced (involves a hammer and some "therapy"! ).
    do it.. go buy something real

    If you need ADSL Max (ie up to 8mb) then I think one of the lads in For Sale had a Draytek 2600 (same as mine) wich is awesome, though it wasn't wifi I don't think.

    If you need ADSL2+ then a new Draytek.

    Netgear.. mammoth potential... so many people with them.. and yet, more failues than you'd hope for

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    Re: My Router Broken?

    Thanks for the tip; I've heard good things about Draytek (probably from you!). I think I'll look into the Draytek Vigor 2710n. Pity Scan doesn't stock them. Am I right in that it has the feature of controlling bandwidth to each user? Overkill at the moment, but could be useful in the future.

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    Re: My Router Broken?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerrard View Post
    Thanks for the tip; I've heard good things about Draytek (probably from you!). I think I'll look into the Draytek Vigor 2710n. Pity Scan doesn't stock them. Am I right in that it has the feature of controlling bandwidth to each user? Overkill at the moment, but could be useful in the future.
    Yep, you can do all sorts of funky stuff with them. We've got a few lying round the office (were a Draytek reseller, or were last time I checked!)

    Yes there a bit more expensive but you really do get what you pay for. Combine that with the ability to do almost anything, and the fact that it will just sit there for years and years plodding along, means you cant really go wrong with them

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    Re: My Router Broken?

    I run a Draytek 2800, great piece of kit. apart from the usual port forwarding all all that stuff, it lalso supports VPN tunneling and handles (if you want it to) certificate generation. And it also supports SNMP so you can use something like SYSLOG to do remote logging.

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    Re: My Router Broken?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerrard View Post
    Yes, forgot to mention that! I think it's either version 1 or 2. I guess if that's a common problem that I should avoid Netgear? I have great plans for this one when it's replaced (involves a hammer and some "therapy"! ).
    Is it a DG834G then? As there DG834GT doesn't have a revision number.

    Have you tried leaving it for a few minutes and see if wired LAN connection comes back to life? As I've read of identical experiences with the Texas Instrument chipset DG834G's temporarily losing wired LAN connections while wireless carries on working.

    No idea what make to suggest as a replacement though.

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    Re: My Router Broken?

    It is a GT. I got confused with my Dad's DG834G which I usually have to fine tune for him. I could leave it a few minutes for the LAN to come back, and maybe this is why I don't notice it during the week as I only use it in the evening and it sorts itself out during the day, but I'm impatient, and as far as I'm concerned, it should just "work". Unless a cat sleeps on it and it overheats (I've heard of this happening a couple of times! ), there's no real reason for it fail for day-to-day use.

    I'll take the plunge with the 2710n I think.

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    Re: My Router Broken?

    I got a 2710n for my work, a nice piece of hardware, certainly offering way more than the normal household or average network needs, but definitely got me thinking about getting this, price tag is hefty though at around £110.

    My DG834GT hasn't failed on me yet, and that only cost £25 off ebay. I had a DG834Gv3 before that which was great but limited my sync speeds.

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    Out of interest what firmware version did you have on the DG834GT?

    I was using 1.02.16, but decided to upgrade to 1.03.22 for WAP2. Have now experienced a few inactive wired connections. Version 1.02.19 had some problem too, which is why I went back to first mentioned version.

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    Netgear.. mammoth potential... so many people with them.. and yet, more failues than you'd hope for
    I have really mixed feeling about Netgear. I've heard many bad things about them, but my previous router was a Netgear and gave no problems (it even supported loopback, which was nice). My current router is another Netgear and again gives no problems. I had donated my previous router to my in-laws (the new one was free when I upgraded to 50mb broadband), sadly it died shortly afterwards. It lasted about 3 years in total.
    With my previous router I had a PC upstairs that was on wireless using a Netgear Rangemax USB adapter. The drivers for this were shocking and played a large part in my decision to run a wire upstairs.

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    Re: My Router Broken?

    Quote Originally Posted by Antagram View Post
    Out of interest what firmware version did you have on the DG834GT?

    I was using 1.02.16, but decided to upgrade to 1.03.22 for WAP2. Have now experienced a few inactive wired connections. Version 1.02.19 had some problem too, which is why I went back to first mentioned version.
    No idea, but I think I have updated it at least once. It's in a box now to be used as a spare if needed. The 2710 is going strong. Haven't really been playing around with it yet to unleash its full potential.

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    Re: My Router Broken?

    Before you splash out on a router, I'd update the firmware first. Out of interest, when it drops the connection do you still have an IP address? Does it drop the public IP on the wan side of the router?

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    Re: My Router Broken?

    I have a 834G router, according to the web interface.

    It has firmware version: V5.01.01

    Is this router much different from the GT one and is this likely to fail as it has worked fine for 2 years now, since I have lived here and it has always sync'd at 8128 / 448 which is the max my exchange can handle but it is slower than my old US Robotics US9105 Ethernet only linux router which was absolutely superb and very fast in comparision...and back then at a previous address I was only syncing at 4.5Mbit yet it was faster than this 8Mbit with a netgear router and I am still using the ethernet on this PC and my web/file server, other PC and laptop use WiFi however.
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    Re: My Router Broken?

    Quote Originally Posted by quackers View Post
    Before you splash out on a router, I'd update the firmware first. Out of interest, when it drops the connection do you still have an IP address? Does it drop the public IP on the wan side of the router?
    For the DG834GT the 1.02.19 and 1.03.22 firmwares both have problems with DHCP and not establishing connections. Don't know about dropping the connection after its been established though.
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