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    Why do they make switches like this??

    Patch Panel looks like this...



    Dump looks like this



    But the stupid switch ports are like this!!



    Why?? Why not have them like this?

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    Re: Why do they make switches like this??

    Ok panels first the first panel is a punch down time panels where the ports are ingratiated or are though couplers. The second one is a modular panel (such as a keystone jack), where the ports are added later. Each type has advantages and disadvantages. Built in ports are cheapest, however unless you wire them all at install time you will probably never be able to wire up all the ports, it also gives a robust connection. Through couplers, very easy to connect and change however can have connection problems, as one joint has added 2 connections rather than one (this can have speed and distance problems). Finally keystone, most expensive, easy to add to the panel, can be "upgraded", for example 10 G and some fibre connections can be done in a keystone configuration, gives a robust connection as every module is sperately wired.

    Now to switches atleast cisco arrange there port so the tab is facing outwards, so swtichs have tabs on top on the bottom row making it hard to remove. I presumed it made switches from the same range look similar see below, I would have though they could have shared components. If you look at the right hand edge the port start at the same place one has 12 ports and the other 16. I assume its cheaper to have two output modules rather than the three in the 2950 (which i like too). The double bank design does allow the mounting of the same components into a smaller frame, cisco do some small frame devices. Netgear however normally use double banking for a compact switch then include with extension 19" ears.



    Notice how there is space to the right on the 2950 so in a cisco design it can have SFPs or Gig Ports on some models.
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    Re: Why do they make switches like this??

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay View Post
    But the stupid switch ports are like this!!
    See, your problem there is, your switch is too small!

    Get one with more ports, and you wont have the problem.

    Its just simple manufacturing costs, 1 PCB, 1 box, several front plates and a a variable number of double sockets. And like all things where cost is the factor, convenience and usability suffer.

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    Re: Why do they make switches like this??

    Amen Jay, things would be so much easier to tidy if they were all laid out the same way.
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    Re: Why do they make switches like this??

    Patch panels also be used by the phone lines so in a corporate environment you would require 2 ports per desk. For example you would use odds for phones and even numbers for data.

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    Re: Why do they make switches like this??

    Quote Originally Posted by ChaosSystem View Post
    Patch panels also be used by the phone lines so in a corporate environment you would require 2 ports per desk. For example you would use odds for phones and even numbers for data.
    Actually if I was wiring that I would patch one floor socket to one panel (data) and the other one to a different panel (phone). Sure if your using voip phone you can use network but even then its nice to have a different switch.
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    Re: Why do they make switches like this??

    you really want voice on its own VLAN to be honest.
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