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    Channel binding and/or Failover routers for multiple WAN sources?

    Hi guys,

    I'm looking to improve the reliability of internet at home, since I also work from home.

    My primary connection is an ADSL link capable of 16mbps (1.2MB/s with torrents, although it's P2P speed is much less, closer to 6-8mbps) and I've just got an LTE 4g router that I was able to clock at 16mbps with Speedtest.

    I want to get a failover router, but I want more than just failover - I want it to intelligently switch traffic between the two WAN connections as needed to ensure the best QoS.

    Any thoughts on this?

    Thanks!

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    Re: Channel binding and/or Failover routers for multiple WAN sources?

    Just do failover. The ADSL connection will almost always be better than the 4g.

    Cisco if you want cheap/hard to configure. Dunno if you need it easy.

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    Re: Channel binding and/or Failover routers for multiple WAN sources?

    Drayktek's Vigor range, I have been using these with my customers for years. They are cheap (relatively speaking), feature rich and just work. Prices start at £150 inc VAT for a simple ADSL model without Wifi.

    The Draytek Vigor model comparison chart

    Which ADSL and 4G routers do you have please?

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    Re: Channel binding and/or Failover routers for multiple WAN sources?

    Vigor if you want it cheap. SonicWall if you want something a bit more high-end. Both relatively easy to setup (The SonicWall is definatly harder but there are enough wizards in the GUI to help you).
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    Re: Channel binding and/or Failover routers for multiple WAN sources?

    Not too picky about 'em being easy - I spent most of my days SSH'd into various cloud (*nix) boxes. I'd prefer decent remote admin abilities via CLI to GUIs if I can help it. Or GUIs if they are slick and not horrid like some SOHO routers I've messed with.

    ADSL it's a rebranded Huawei iirc and the 4G LTE router's the same. I don't think those brands are locally available but I'm in Singapore next week so I'll check. Was thinking of something a bit more high-end like Cisco? Will be getting a network rack here soon, so a 1U/2U unit would be fine.

    I'd also like some firewall facilities. BUT I don't want it to cost the earth as my shopping list is already bulging past £15,000/-...

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    Re: Channel binding and/or Failover routers for multiple WAN sources?

    The Sonicwall (probably a TZ 205/w or a 215/w) is going to cost upwards of £400. Plus if you want it to do virus checking through the firewall there is an extra license fee for that (and a few other optional extras you can purchase). So not cheap but then they are very nice bits of kit.
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    Re: Channel binding and/or Failover routers for multiple WAN sources?

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    The Sonicwall (probably a TZ 205/w or a 215/w) is going to cost upwards of £400. Plus if you want it to do virus checking through the firewall there is an extra license fee for that (and a few other optional extras you can purchase). So not cheap but then they are very nice bits of kit.
    Around a 1,000-1,500 quid is OK, but I don't want pricing to go into 'enterprise' territory. I'll check on Sonicwall.

    Slight change in topic guys, WIFI.

    So right now, I've got an older Airport Extreme base station (looks almost like a MacMini) which has a 5Ghz band and does 802.11n - that's what caused me to get it waaay back. The wifi off the ADSL 'modem' (doesn't do any routing as such). The router at the moment IS the AEBS.

    So...even though the 4G LTE router also has it's own Wifi SSN -let's ignore that for now.

    I want to have a primary, high speed/throughput and strong signal Wifi 'zone'. What's the best way to go about this? I suppose it'll be 802.11n and they'll hook into a Gig/E switch?

    Here's what I'm thinking of at the moment:

    Legacy network:

    ADSL modem -> AEBS (main wifi)

    New network:

    ADSL modem (WAN1)
    4G LTE (WAN2)

    WAN1+2 -> Sonicwall (or whatever I can get) ->(GigE switch or directly into GigE ports on failover router) -> New primary Wifi router & AEBS.

    The new wifi router will need to be able to 'bridge' with other routers, to allow extending the signal to the back of the house. It's a 100-year old building with large double-bricked walls.. kills signals for breakfast. We can't get bricks like those today...

    What about Linksys WRT1900AC.. I believe their AC grade means the other bridge's need to be AC as well.

    Anything else I should look at?

    How about these two Netgear products, one's an extender.

    http://www.netgear.co.uk/home/produc...ers/R7500.aspx // older Nighthawk4, there's supposedly a 6 out.
    http://www.netgear.co.uk/home/produc...rs/EX6200.aspx
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    Re: Channel binding and/or Failover routers for multiple WAN sources?

    If you go Sonicwall, you can purchase Sonicpoints for them. Again, very nice bits of kit.

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    Re: Channel binding and/or Failover routers for multiple WAN sources?

    Just did some reading up on the SonicWall stuff and that's exactly what I'm after. a TZ215 & 2x Sonicpoint N2s will be ample. I'll get in touch with a distributor tomorrow, thanks!

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    Re: Channel binding and/or Failover routers for multiple WAN sources?

    Finally got someone from Dell Singapore to get in touch, but their response time is so slow. I'll probably have to chase this up when I'm back in Colombo.

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