Results 1 to 14 of 14

Thread: Extending home network

  1. #1
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Posts
    28
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    1 time in 1 post

    Extending home network

    I'm looking to extend my home network as my house has really think walls/floors which make it difficult for wifi signal to penetrate.

    I have seen power line adapters for sale which promise to convert your power circuit into a sort of data network. Do these things actually work? It might just be the thing I need.

  2. #2
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    2,129
    Thanks
    13
    Thanked
    189 times in 160 posts

    Re: Extending home network

    Yes and no.

    Personally I'd go with a better access point and aerial first. My house has 3 foot thick walls and with proper kit, there is no issue other than being a bit slower 'on the other side of the wall'.

  3. #3
    Evil Monkey! MrJim's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    London
    Posts
    2,319
    Thanks
    302
    Thanked
    475 times in 365 posts
    • MrJim's system
      • Motherboard:
      • MSI Tomahawk X570
      • CPU:
      • AMD Ryzen 5900X
      • Memory:
      • 32gb Kingston 3600 DDR4
      • Storage:
      • Aorus 1Tb NVME SSD, Samsung 1Tb 970 Evo SSD, Crucial 2tb MX500 SSD, Seagate Ironwolf 4Tb SSD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA 3080Ti
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic Prime Ultra Platinum 1300W
      • Case:
      • Fractal Meshify 2
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 11 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Viewsonic 27" XG2703-GS
      • Internet:
      • BT 900 mb/s FTTP

    Re: Extending home network

    Quote Originally Posted by mjallan123 View Post
    I'm looking to extend my home network as my house has really think walls/floors which make it difficult for wifi signal to penetrate.

    I have seen power line adapters for sale which promise to convert your power circuit into a sort of data network. Do these things actually work? It might just be the thing I need.
    They do indeed work, but the connection speed depends in a large part on the wiring in your house. I use several TP-Link 500Mbs adapters, & they're just a 'plug & play' solution. On some others you'll have to 'pair' them to recognise each other. I get a very good connection, & can definitely recommend them.

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    Lurking over a keyboard!
    Posts
    438
    Thanks
    216
    Thanked
    35 times in 33 posts
    • gupsterg's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus Maximus VII Ranger
      • CPU:
      • i5 4690K @ 4.9GHz
      • Memory:
      • Kingston HyperX Savage 2400Mhz 16GB
      • Storage:
      • Samsung 840 EVO 250GB + HGST 2TB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire R9 Fury X
      • PSU:
      • Cooler Master V850
      • Case:
      • Silverstone Temjin 06 plus mods ;)
      • Operating System:
      • Win 7 Pro x64 / Win 10 Pro x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Asus MG279Q
      • Internet:
      • TalkTalk VDSL

    Re: Extending home network

    Quote Originally Posted by mjallan123 View Post
    I'm looking to extend my home network as my house has really think walls/floors which make it difficult for wifi signal to penetrate.

    I have seen power line adapters for sale which promise to convert your power circuit into a sort of data network. Do these things actually work? It might just be the thing I need.
    In the same boat as you after my move, I'm toying with idea of 3 different bits of equipment on the powerline side.

    1. Link:- Linksys PLSK400 without wifi signal.

    2. Link:- Linksys PLWK400 with wifi signal.

    3. I recently missed out on a great today only deal on Scan for Link:- ZyXel PLA4231 @ £11.99 .

    Currently I use a router with a repeater (worked well in old place) but the powerline adapters with the wifi extender seems the best option to me as you have the RJ45 connection plus the wifi signal is created from the powerline connection to router not the router's wifi signal being repeated.
    i5 4690K @ 4.9GHz CPU@1.255v 4.4GHz Cache@1.10v - Archon SB-E X2 - Asus Maximus VII Ranger
    Kingston HyperX Savage 16GB@2400MHz 1T - Sapphire R9 Fury X (1145/545 Custom ROM, ~17.7K 3DM FS)
    Samsung 840 Evo 250GB - Cooler Master V850

    R7 1700@3.8GHz - Archon IB-E X2 - Asus Crosshair VI Hero - G.Skill Trident Z 3200MHz C14 - Sapphire Fury X (1145/545 Custom ROM, ~17.2K 3DM FS)
    Samsung 840 Evo 250GB - Cooler Master V850


  5. Received thanks from:

    Dareos (18-04-2015)

  6. #5
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Posts
    28
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    1 time in 1 post

    Re: Extending home network

    Quote Originally Posted by abaxas View Post
    Yes and no.

    Personally I'd go with a better access point and aerial first. My house has 3 foot thick walls and with proper kit, there is no issue other than being a bit slower 'on the other side of the wall'.
    The problem is I'm with Sky and they pretty much force you to use their equipment, which I don't think is very good.

    My house is quite large and old so I am not sure how good the wiring is. Maybe a wifi booster/extender would be better.

  7. #6
    Treasure Hunter extraordinaire herulach's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Bolton
    Posts
    5,618
    Thanks
    18
    Thanked
    172 times in 159 posts
    • herulach's system
      • Motherboard:
      • MSI Z97 MPower
      • CPU:
      • i7 4790K
      • Memory:
      • 8GB Vengeance LP
      • Storage:
      • 1TB WD Blue + 250GB 840 EVo
      • Graphics card(s):
      • 2* Palit GTX 970 Jetstream
      • PSU:
      • EVGA Supernova G2 850W
      • Case:
      • CM HAF Stacker 935, 2*360 Rad WC Loop w/EK blocks.
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 8.1
      • Monitor(s):
      • Crossover 290HD & LG L1980Q
      • Internet:
      • 120mb Virgin Media

    Re: Extending home network

    There's nothing stopping you using a router on a sky connection. Just stick it in ap only mode.

    Powerline is a bit pants in our house as my gaming stuff is in an extension on its own ring. Tried it with cheap Powerline adaptors with no joy. Plus I wanted signal for tablets, laptops etc there so went with a decent ac router.

  8. #7
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    2,129
    Thanks
    13
    Thanked
    189 times in 160 posts

    Re: Extending home network

    Another option would be a repeater. This will slow down the wireless to sub half speed but in reality if it's for ipads etc, it makes no difference.
    +

  9. Received thanks from:

    gupsterg (19-04-2015)

  10. #8
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Posts
    28
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    1 time in 1 post

    Re: Extending home network

    Quote Originally Posted by herulach View Post
    There's nothing stopping you using a router on a sky connection. Just stick it in ap only mode.

    Powerline is a bit pants in our house as my gaming stuff is in an extension on its own ring. Tried it with cheap Powerline adaptors with no joy. Plus I wanted signal for tablets, laptops etc there so went with a decent ac router.
    Really? I was sure you could only use the router they sent you? Do you have sky? Which router do you use?

  11. #9
    Treasure Hunter extraordinaire herulach's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Bolton
    Posts
    5,618
    Thanks
    18
    Thanked
    172 times in 159 posts
    • herulach's system
      • Motherboard:
      • MSI Z97 MPower
      • CPU:
      • i7 4790K
      • Memory:
      • 8GB Vengeance LP
      • Storage:
      • 1TB WD Blue + 250GB 840 EVo
      • Graphics card(s):
      • 2* Palit GTX 970 Jetstream
      • PSU:
      • EVGA Supernova G2 850W
      • Case:
      • CM HAF Stacker 935, 2*360 Rad WC Loop w/EK blocks.
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 8.1
      • Monitor(s):
      • Crossover 290HD & LG L1980Q
      • Internet:
      • 120mb Virgin Media

    Re: Extending home network

    Quote Originally Posted by mjallan123 View Post
    Really? I was sure you could only use the router they sent you? Do you have sky? Which router do you use?
    Just set it to access point mode and turn the sky wifi off. We dumped it for sweet sweet cable a while ago but mine (Asus rt ac66u) works fine. The sky router still routes, yours just does the wifi

  12. #10
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Posts
    1
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Re: Extending home network

    Just use this cheap TP-Link (www(.)mbreviews(.)com/tp-link-tl-wr841n-wifi-broadband-router-300mbps-n), it does it's job like any expensive router.
    I use it as an access point and I have about 85% signal through one thick concrete wall so I wouldn't worry about it.
    If you can install dd-wrt to it (there are lots of tutorials on the net) and you're set for the next 6+ years.

  13. #11
    Anthropomorphic Personification shaithis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    The Last Aerie
    Posts
    10,857
    Thanks
    645
    Thanked
    872 times in 736 posts
    • shaithis's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P8Z77 WS
      • CPU:
      • i7 3770k @ 4.5GHz
      • Memory:
      • 32GB HyperX 1866
      • Storage:
      • Lots!
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire Fury X
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX850
      • Case:
      • Corsair 600T (White)
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • 2 x Dell 3007
      • Internet:
      • Zen 80Mb Fibre

    Re: Extending home network

    Quote Originally Posted by mjallan123 View Post
    The problem is I'm with Sky and they pretty much force you to use their equipment, which I don't think is very good.
    There is a website that will read your username/password out of the Sky router so that you can use any router as a replacement.
    Main PC: Asus Rampage IV Extreme / 3960X@4.5GHz / Antec H1200 Pro / 32GB DDR3-1866 Quad Channel / Sapphire Fury X / Areca 1680 / 850W EVGA SuperNOVA Gold 2 / Corsair 600T / 2x Dell 3007 / 4 x 250GB SSD + 2 x 80GB SSD / 4 x 1TB HDD (RAID 10) / Windows 10 Pro, Yosemite & Ubuntu
    HTPC: AsRock Z77 Pro 4 / 3770K@4.2GHz / 24GB / GTX 1080 / SST-LC20 / Antec TP-550 / Hisense 65k5510 4K TV / HTC Vive / 2 x 240GB SSD + 12TB HDD Space / Race Seat / Logitech G29 / Win 10 Pro
    HTPC2: Asus AM1I-A / 5150 / 4GB / Corsair Force 3 240GB / Silverstone SST-ML05B + ST30SF / Samsung UE60H6200 TV / Windows 10 Pro
    Spare/Loaner: Gigabyte EX58-UD5 / i950 / 12GB / HD7870 / Corsair 300R / Silverpower 700W modular
    NAS 1: HP N40L / 12GB ECC RAM / 2 x 3TB Arrays || NAS 2: Dell PowerEdge T110 II / 24GB ECC RAM / 2 x 3TB Hybrid arrays || Network:Buffalo WZR-1166DHP w/DD-WRT + HP ProCurve 1800-24G
    Laptop: Dell Precision 5510 Printer: HP CP1515n || Phone: Huawei P30 || Other: Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 Pro 10.1 CM14 / Playstation 4 + G29 + 2TB Hybrid drive

  14. Received thanks from:

    gupsterg (19-04-2015)

  15. #12
    Evil Monkey! MrJim's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    London
    Posts
    2,319
    Thanks
    302
    Thanked
    475 times in 365 posts
    • MrJim's system
      • Motherboard:
      • MSI Tomahawk X570
      • CPU:
      • AMD Ryzen 5900X
      • Memory:
      • 32gb Kingston 3600 DDR4
      • Storage:
      • Aorus 1Tb NVME SSD, Samsung 1Tb 970 Evo SSD, Crucial 2tb MX500 SSD, Seagate Ironwolf 4Tb SSD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA 3080Ti
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic Prime Ultra Platinum 1300W
      • Case:
      • Fractal Meshify 2
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 11 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Viewsonic 27" XG2703-GS
      • Internet:
      • BT 900 mb/s FTTP

    Re: Extending home network

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    There is a website that will read your username/password out of the Sky router so that you can use any router as a replacement.
    I used Wireshark to read my password from the Sky router when I was with Sky. There's a PDF tutorial somewhere on how to do it (Google should find it). The other problem is finding a router that will accept the extra authentication information...

  16. Received thanks from:

    gupsterg (19-04-2015)

  17. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    Lurking over a keyboard!
    Posts
    438
    Thanks
    216
    Thanked
    35 times in 33 posts
    • gupsterg's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus Maximus VII Ranger
      • CPU:
      • i5 4690K @ 4.9GHz
      • Memory:
      • Kingston HyperX Savage 2400Mhz 16GB
      • Storage:
      • Samsung 840 EVO 250GB + HGST 2TB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire R9 Fury X
      • PSU:
      • Cooler Master V850
      • Case:
      • Silverstone Temjin 06 plus mods ;)
      • Operating System:
      • Win 7 Pro x64 / Win 10 Pro x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Asus MG279Q
      • Internet:
      • TalkTalk VDSL

    Re: Extending home network

    I relocated my router and signal strength increased to the repeater the same as what it was sited right next to it.

    This better connection between router & repeater meant my internet mbps doubled when using device on repeater and ping rate.

    Only issue has been router slowed down on ADSL connection speed and mbps due to use of extension lead but will be sorted when I relocate master socket .

    Using in built repeater site survey app / inSSIDer discovered optimum locations.
    i5 4690K @ 4.9GHz CPU@1.255v 4.4GHz Cache@1.10v - Archon SB-E X2 - Asus Maximus VII Ranger
    Kingston HyperX Savage 16GB@2400MHz 1T - Sapphire R9 Fury X (1145/545 Custom ROM, ~17.7K 3DM FS)
    Samsung 840 Evo 250GB - Cooler Master V850

    R7 1700@3.8GHz - Archon IB-E X2 - Asus Crosshair VI Hero - G.Skill Trident Z 3200MHz C14 - Sapphire Fury X (1145/545 Custom ROM, ~17.2K 3DM FS)
    Samsung 840 Evo 250GB - Cooler Master V850


  18. #14
    Nefarious Networker Dareos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Larkhall, Scotland
    Posts
    3,389
    Thanks
    460
    Thanked
    402 times in 299 posts
    • Dareos's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte Z77 - UD3H
      • CPU:
      • Intel i5 Ivy Bridge
      • Memory:
      • 16GB Corsair Vengeance
      • Storage:
      • Crucial M4 128GB, Seagate Barracuda 2TB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Gigabyte Geforce 670 OC Windforce x 2
      • PSU:
      • Corsair 1050 Modular
      • Case:
      • Fractal R3
      • Operating System:
      • Win 7
      • Monitor(s):
      • 27" DGM and 40" Samsung TV
      • Internet:
      • 152 Mb Virgin

    Re: Extending home network

    Quote Originally Posted by abaxas View Post
    Another option would be a repeater. This will slow down the wireless to sub half speed but in reality if it's for ipads etc, it makes no difference.
    +
    actually it can bud, can make a lot of difference. some of these repeaters appear to be using some form of DHCP reservation. quick example

    Anything connecting to the VM superhub (using this as i know it best) will get its ip given out by the shub in order, ie starting at 192.168.0.2 and finishing at theoretically .254
    If you put in a wifi extender, namely the TP link ones, that dont use a physical connection to the shub, then the ip any devices get given appear to be in the range of 192.168.0.100+. Now if the extender loses connection to the hub at any time then the device you are using will connect directly to the hub, but wont get online as the shub does not recognise that it has given out that ip address to that mac.

    its a fairly strange problem but just one of many that I come across with these devices on a daily basis. I have had no issues however with powerline ones (other than neighbours wifi being cloned) that as Gupsterg says, broadcast their own wifi signal rather than attempting to repeat another.

    I do agree with you on speed however, people are fixated on having 150Mbps and are kicking up hell when they get 70 on wifi, without actually having any understanding of how fast 70 is, or any of the other limitations of wifi.
    We're only here for the Banter - The Luvvies - Chewin' The Fat

    Violence and Lubrication is the solution to fixing everything, if it still doesn't work, you need more lubrication.

    Quote Originally Posted by this_is_gav View Post
    How do you change the height of them?

    I've just had a quick fiddle with the knob at the front :\

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •