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    How best to install Virgin BB around a house?

    Trying to sort out a spec for getting my place rewired. Alongside new electrics and a home network I'm wondering how best to install VM throughout the place (it seems to be our only realistic cable option)

    Is it best to install ethernet cable and just terminate the incoming fibre/coax at given point, or should we plan to have multiple coax points throughout the place?

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    Re: How best to install Virgin BB around a house?

    I think they'll only put one coax point in, then stick a modem on it. If you get the telly from them as well though, they'll track in multiple coax points according to how many boxes you're getting. I don't think you can use the TV coax points for internets though...

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    Normally any extra points can be negotiated with a suitable monetary handover, but being realistic you only have one modem point and you cannot have more so use ethernet and plan the point of entry to have the modem and switch/router located there as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Smudger View Post
    I think they'll only put one coax point in, then stick a modem on it. If you get the telly from them as well though, they'll track in multiple coax points according to how many boxes you're getting. I don't think you can use the TV coax points for internets though...
    You can if you start swapping the filters about, I moved mine across the house this year and you just need to make sure you have the right filter where you need it.

    Same as ADSL but filtered for internet and TV, phones on its own cable.

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    Re: How best to install Virgin BB around a house?

    With Virgin, you should be getting a superhub, and the WiFi signal from later Superhubs is better than previous generations, so might work well. I would be seriously tempted to look at powerline ethernet as a way of avoiding cabling for longer distances or where the device to be connected is wired-only. The entry price is lower for decent kit, it's easy to set up, doesn't require installing new cabling.

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    Re: How best to install Virgin BB around a house?

    we're getting the place rewired so thinking about getting home network installed at the same time.

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    Re: How best to install Virgin BB around a house?

    run cat 5e or cat 6 to dedicated points in the house, if wifi signal is a problem then stick a wireless access point at one of these points, otherwise an unmanaged switch at each point to service multiple devices would be your best bet. Shouldnt be too much hassle for an electrician to run the cable with the power cables, might not install RJ45 connections tho.

    As stated before, only 1 cable modem per account with Virginmedia, but it will work on any of the coax points, might need an attenuator to work on distant points and its best to cap points you are not using.

    Personally I think its a great idea to get it done, and I would have every room in my house connected with at least 1 cat 6 cable if i could, currently though its powerline and wifi.
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    Re: How best to install Virgin BB around a house?

    well work kindly just gave me a switch to help with the process. A cisco WS-C3560-24PS-S. Winner! It's only 10/100 but should be decent and stable. If I can figure out how to configure the thing (The cisco site is scary)!

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    Re: How best to install Virgin BB around a house?

    Better off with the cheap £20 netgear 1gbs 8 port. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...rch_detailpage

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    Re: How best to install Virgin BB around a house?

    I have a zyxel and a trend micro similar to that. they both work, but when i try and LAN game on them they drop machines, and we get sync issues that freeze out games. i wondered if it either over heats or just can't handle the latency required, and I'd need a lot more than 8 ports!

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    Re: How best to install Virgin BB around a house?

    Quote Originally Posted by nichomach View Post
    With Virgin, you should be getting a superhub, and the WiFi signal from later Superhubs is better than previous generations, so might work well. I would be seriously tempted to look at powerline ethernet as a way of avoiding cabling for longer distances or where the device to be connected is wired-only. The entry price is lower for decent kit, it's easy to set up, doesn't require installing new cabling.
    +1 on the Powerline Ethernet, if you weren't getting rewiring done. Since you are then cat5e/6 around and about has got to be the best way. Personally I had so many problems with that accursed SuperHub1 that I ended up switching the awful lump to modem mode and hanging a 3rd party wireless router off of the back of it. That said, you just reminded me that I was going to check what speed that SH1 goes up to, i.e. if I get 200Mb/s do I need a modem upgrade?

    If you are going Powerline Ethernet then I'd recommend taking a look at Devolo - more expensive than the Zxyel etc, but pretty decent quality - apart from the "650" speed units. I've got a couple of those and they're ... problematic.

    If you get annoyed by the SuperHub then I can recommend the Asus RT-AC68U, nice piece of kit and it just works.

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    Re: How best to install Virgin BB around a house?

    if you go to 200Mbps you need a shub2ac. the original shub is capable of 200 but the codes on the system dont work with it, so when you upgrade the agent needs to send a shub2ac.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dareos View Post
    if you go to 200Mbps you need a shub2ac. the original shub is capable of 200 but the codes on the system dont work with it, so when you upgrade the agent needs to send a shub2ac.
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    Re: How best to install Virgin BB around a house?

    Get cat5e or cat6 throughout the house all going to a central point -with a cable going to the main modem point too.

    Modules / patch panel / 24 port switch.

    Do it properly.

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