So, I managed to get one on Amazon warehouse (like new) for £96. Saw it and bought it before I thought about it.
Deal or no deal? Lol
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So, I managed to get one on Amazon warehouse (like new) for £96. Saw it and bought it before I thought about it.
Deal or no deal? Lol
Nope. Terrible deal.
In fact, I feel so sorry for you, I'll give you the £96 and take it off your hands.
No, no. No need to thank me . I'm just a nice guy.
:D So it's good then? I've been toying with the idea of a 10gbe card in my new Synology 1821 (although Synology charge a rediculous amount for them).
Think they are around £250 and upwards normally, its clearly faulty. Think you should sell it to me for erm £40
If it doesn't work I'll sell you it ;)
Fingers crossed it works fine then!
I got the QSW-308-1C when it first launched - they didn't do managed 10gbe switches at that time.
iirc Synology limited compatibility on their cards to not work on non-Synology units, but I don't know if they gimped the NAS boxes to prevent third party NICs being used in them, so they could bleed you on the price of their cards. Even if you don't get a 10G NIC straight away, you can probably do port trunking on the NAS and the switch for improved throughput - it has four 1GBE ports, right?
Yea it has 4x 1gbe. Generally I move lots of data from my computer to my Nas and the 120mbps limit I currently have is too slow í ½í¸‚
Same here - which is why I jumped at 10g as soon as I could afford it. Add to the fact that I'm terribly impatient.Quote:
Originally Posted by neonplanet40
It's an expensive affliction - I keep eyeing up their m2108-2c
Unfortunately however Synology charging £250 for the dual port 10gbe card is a bit much at the moment....
I just had a look - Rob at SPAN tried a QNAP QM2 card in a Synology NAS - no dice.
Which is mad, because I can install my QM2 in a PC.
It seems they have completely locked down the software sonthst it won't recognise other hardware. This forces you to buy their card. I am holding off because I'm hoping that someone will get a third party card to work....
A quick question, do I need anything else to use the 10gbe ports on this other than 10gbe network cards in my computer devices?
I see it has two combo ports (I'd prob use my cat6 cables). But it also has 2 sfp+ ports. I know nothing about Sfp+. But if my device has a 10gbe card with an sfp+ port, do I just buy an sfp+ cable (or whatever it is called) and slot it straight into the computer and switch like I normally would with my Ethernet cables or is there more to it than this?
You can use SFP+ 10g cards in your computer and connect via DAC cable to the switch, or you can use SFP to 10GbE modules to accommodate more RJ45 connections, if the combo ports aren't enough for you. The modules can be expensive - I got a couple at £40 each but £50- £60 is more likely.
DAC cables are fine, if the distance is only a few metres. Longer runs will require fibre cables and associated transceivers, which are at least a lot cheaper than the 10G RJ45 modules.
I wonder if the gimping of the cards came in with DSM7; it seems a hell of a lot of stuff happened when that rolled in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spreadie
Nice switch. Dead jealous :)
I still find it hard to believe the NAS companies have to make their own network gear. The network companies should really be making that uneconomical by now.
I see AT&T in the States is talking about 5Gb Internet. That's nice, 'til it gets to the 1GbE network ports.
https://arstechnica.com/information-...180-for-5gbps/
So, I have bought:
The QNAP Switch for £96
Synology E10G18-T1 Single Port 10GBASE-T/NBASE-T Network Card - For £119 - should be fine for my needs
For my PC - HP 700699-B21 Ethernet 561FLR-T Network Adapter (10GBE, 2 Port) - £22.98 - hope it's okay?
Now I just need cables to attach them to the switch. 1x 0.5m and 1x 3m. Any recommendations for cheapest?
At those lengths, even half decent Cat5 would probably be fine with 10G. Assuming you have some cables to hand.
Both cards only have SFP+ ports though. So I won't be able to use cat cables will I? I thought Id have to get sfp+ cables with transceivers?
Sorry, I missed that.
You looking at DAC cables?
I've only bought a handul of cables, mainly from 10Gtek on Amazon. I did get a couple of short cables from H!Fiber.com, also on Amazon.
Had no issues with any of them.
Yes I think so. (I'm assuming that is what I need :D ). 8 miss the simplicity of cat cables with the universal connections í ½í¸‚
The point of SFP+ is that you can choose what you transmit over.
You can get direct copper cables, transceivers for 10GbE RJ45 or fibre.
The optical modules tend to be the path most tread so best supported.
Edit: The DAC cables are pretty cheap though, might be worth trying one.
Not much point in fibre at these distances though - DAC ain't exactly cheap but it tends to be more practical for short lengths, compared to a pair of transceivers and a length of fibre per run.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix
I've taken a punt on these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...0?ie=UTF8&th=1
Will see how they get on. Amazon have decent returns if it doesn't work.
If they don't work out I recommend cablemonkey, good quality and excellent service and returns if you buy the wrong gear.
They do premade patch cables from 0.5m to 10m too, including fibre ones.
just about to say cablemoneky myself :D
Thinking about this more; the NAS is basically a custom linux box under it, so if the kernel supports it, then it should work. I can only think they are locking device pids / ids out but how they do that in the linux world i don't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Apex
Having worked on 10Gb and 40Gb networking on high end NAS boxes, there are plenty of ways to nobble the networking. Having said that, we used to just mark unknown network gear as unsupported. If eg a sysadmin has an xfp fail and the only spare they can find in a drawer isn't an approved part for the NAS, they still need to use it to keep their uptime, just should be warned that it isn't a tested/qualified part. To actually deny people access to their data, well that's beyond rude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Apex
Edit: Having said that, when someone has paid the price of a luxury car for their NAS you can be pretty sure they won't skimp on whether the bits they plug into it are approved. As long as you give them a reasonable choice.
Well I may have bought the Synology 10gbe card. However, the 16gb dam I upgraded to most definitely wasn't Synology ram. Nor are my hard drives. They can go and swivel.
So the rubbishHP 700699-B21 Ethernet 561FLR-T Network Adapter (10GBE, 2 Port) does not work on my pc. My computer can't even 'see' it
Any recommendations for a cheap 10gbe card for Windows 10 and my b450f mobo?
Thanks :D
The Synology worked fine though haha. Turns out that card isn't an SPF+ card. So didn't need that cable. Sods law. Will add it to the spares.
Something Intel based
https://www.servethehome.com/intel-x...-t-nic-review/
That HP card looks interesting, if a lot of work...
https://forums.servethehome.com/inde...ap-5-10.30394/
Now that is interesting.
So I got an Asus 10gbe card for £50. Thought that was an okay price.
https://ibb.co/gyRHP5L
Speeds pretty good from my SSD on my pc to the Synology which just runs WD Reds. I used to get 125 tops.
So, I made a rookie error. It appears both of my NIC cards (the Asus for PC and the Synology for the NAS) are RJ45 ports. Which is fine. However, I am about to add another synology 1821 to the mix.
My problem? This switch only has 2 joined RJ45/SFP+ ports and then a further 2 SFP+ ports.
So I have a few options (I would like to go the cheapest and/or easiest route!).
Get a Synology SFP+ card for the new NAS - These are expensive - at about £280 a pop.
Replace the PC Asus 10gbe RJ45 card with another SFP+ port card (unsure of price?) and sell the Asus 10gbe RJ45 card - then, buy another Synology 10gbe RJ45 card which is about £140ish.
Find some way of converting the RJ45 connector from the pc cable - to SFP+ to fit in that switch slot. Is this even possible? Price - unknown.
Silly me eh! I thought the Synology card was SFP+. Didn't realise until I got it that it wasn't....
Ideas please :D
10GbE SFP+ to RJ45 modules?
They aren't cheap at £40 - £60 each, depending on what deals you find, but I've used a couple for the last two years.
Ugh. £56. Would I need one for each end? Or can one end stay as is (rj45 into computer) and then the other end just have the rj45 - sfp+connector?
If so, are there any relaly cheap ones that would suffice?! :D
When looking up these 10Base-T tranceivers, there are loads of different ones. Does it matter which one you get? or, because my switch is Qnap, do I need a Qnap one etc?
Crazy that it isn't cheaper for such a small thing...
Both of mine are 10Gtek, converting two of the SFP+ ports on my QNAP switch to RJ45. Cisco modules are a good choice too, but tend to be more expensive.
I think I paid £40 and £45 for mine - one on a deal and one on Amazon Warehouse.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Got this from Amazon for the Synology 1821. WOrks with 0 issues. Wish I'd know that before I got the one for the other Synology unit haha.