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    any point in 256bit wep encrypted wireless

    hi, well i just set up my wireless network, but i only set up 64 bit encryption, now, considering i have read its possible to crack 256bit wep in 3 minuites is there any point in using anything more than 64 bit?

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    if you have WPA then use that, the WEP protocol is inherently flawed, 64bit actually translates to around 40bit with the overheads that the system uses.
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    i have WPA yeah, uhh, whats the difference, is it harder to set up? and, umm, what does it stand for?

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    3 minutes only if you tell them your key and wait for windows to boot.

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    I'd use WPA myself, if it wasn't that two of my laptops have a heart attack when provoked into running WPA.

    The first one just doesn't connect, the second one has to be booted up from cold then restarted before it'll connect!

    And I'm still unable to get my linux box to run in any encrypted stake.

    I figure that I've got nothing shared that shouldn't be, my connection has WEP64 and theres six neighbours around with absolutely no encryption on my street alone. I'm the only one using encryption for about two miles around (except the local school whos security is tighter than my ex)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kumagoro
    3 minutes only if you tell them your key and wait for windows to boot.
    People who make you still run WEP are quite likely to do that thou.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kumagoro
    3 minutes only if you tell them your key and wait for windows to boot.
    http://www.hackaday.com/entry/1234000950059298/

    eh?

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    its not really worth it because if someone wants to break into your network badly they can, it just stops the bored kiddie next door doing it

    personally i have a mac filter on mine
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    WEP is better than nothing but it will not keep someone from hacking you if they know what they're doing. Most of the people who WEP would protect you against couldn't login to a router and configure it anyway, so it's questionable whether or not it's worth the trouble of setting up. It'll keep the next door neighbors from getting free internet at your expense but that's about it.

    Use WPA, even if you have to replace your network cards and router. It's worth it if you value your identity.
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    Are you likely to be targetted? How sensitive is the data that is transiting your network?

    I use WEP for privacy, and I enforce MAC based access (ie unless the MAC address of the connecting device is known to the access point, it won't connect. I also inspect the AP logs regularly. I don't regard it as secure, but sensitive data (passwords) is protected by other means, and it is good enough for my privacy. A directed attack would soon crack it though.

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    but whats the point of using WEP when there is a far better alternative available which supports most hardware. Even if you use the WPA-PSK (pre shared key) varient its way more secure than even the highest level of WEP.
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    Because my APs don't support it... I am considering setting up a radius server to take care of things, but it does seem to be overkill....

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterb
    Are you likely to be targetted? How sensitive is the data that is transiting your network?

    I use WEP for privacy, and I enforce MAC based access (ie unless the MAC address of the connecting device is known to the access point, it won't connect. I also inspect the AP logs regularly. I don't regard it as secure, but sensitive data (passwords) is protected by other means, and it is good enough for my privacy. A directed attack would soon crack it though.
    I have surveyed my area and found that about 70% of home users and 40% of business users are running completely unsecured networks. They have not even bothered to login and change the router passwords most of the time.

    How likely are you to have some monkey stealing your network bandwidth and internet connection for free? Extremely. How likely is it that they will login to your router and make it unusable by you? Not very because if they want to use it they must also allow you to use it or you will eventually fix the problem. How sensitive is the data? I don't know, how much money is in your bank account? Do you like it being in your bank account or would you rather have it in someone else's? How badly do you not want someone to open creditcard accounts in your name and run them up to the moon with charges?

    Yes it is extremely unlikely that you personally will be targeted by a hacker. Still, if you can protect against that with 100-400 quid of new network hardware I think it would be silly not to.

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