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    I've fallen a bit behind with the ADSL2 business.

    What the latest on ISP to roll out first?

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    BeThere have launched an ADSL2+ service, 24MBit. If you're interested I can get an offer for a free month when you sign up (pm me). However, they have had some teething troubles. The ISPReview review of them so far was negative - however, I think that's because they changed the way their SMTP works to adhere to a Spam code of practice... and they've issued a couple of statements about how they're addressing their issues to ISPReview, which gives some hope that they'll get their problems sorted out soon.
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    Wait a year or two and even BT might do it..
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    Anyone know if it will cover longer distances?

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    Well I read on a BBC news page on my phone that 24MB would wonly b fore people 300m from their exchange, and most people would only be able to get 8MB. I'll find the link.

    EDIT: Here's the link - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4399330.stm

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    IMO ADSL2+ is pointless for the vast majority of people until BT start putting equipment in the streets, as the bandwidth fall-off means they'd be no better off..
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    i want to see mini dSLAMS in those green/grey boxes you get at the end of the roads. Never mind last mile, i want last 200-300 yards

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    Quote Originally Posted by Funkstar
    i want to see mini dSLAMS in those green/grey boxes you get at the end of the roads. Never mind last mile, i want last 200-300 yards
    Really? Is this just an idea you have had, or is this an actuall technology that exists? That could really sort out my not having broadband problem. I'm to far from my exchange so I'm waiting for WiMAX to get off the ground properly, but thats a great idea.

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    Unless you're trying to stream video, the downstream won't be a massive issue to a lot of users - it'll be (generally significantly) faster than their current provider, regardless of whether it's 8,12,18 or 24 mbit. The upstream is of more value if you're running a server, doing VPN, doing VOIP, video chat, P2P or any other 2-way communication, and since this is still not that fast compared to the downstream, you'd expect that to remain closer to the maximum speed. Further than 300m may well not allow things like Hi-Def streaming video, but it should still be more suitable for various tasks which benefit from greater than ADSL bandwidth, and will still give a good download speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous_dom
    Anyone know if it will cover longer distances?
    Apparantly yes, i can only get 1mb where i am now, but with adsl2 i can get at least 10mb down and 1.5mb upload.

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    So, untill bt puts ADSL2 tec in its lines, or whatever, it loses bandwidth really fast? Whats happening to this fibreoptic network i keep hearing about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous_dom
    Really? Is this just an idea you have had, or is this an actuall technology that exists? That could really sort out my not having broadband problem. I'm to far from my exchange so I'm waiting for WiMAX to get off the ground properly, but thats a great idea.
    You can get mini dSLAMs, but don't know how 'mini' they are. i believe they are being used in more rural exchanges, that is how BT can justify making every echange ADSL enabled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvening
    So, untill bt puts ADSL2 tec in its lines, or whatever, it loses bandwidth really fast? Whats happening to this fibreoptic network i keep hearing about?
    You can get ISDN-30 right now, which is delivered by optic cable, and could bond up to four 2MB-down/256k-up links, but the product is aimed at business users for PABX and multi-format content delivery, so is prohibitively priced for the consumer..

    I've not heard of any consumer optic network coming from BT.. Might be wrong.

    So yes, the wait for ADSL-2 goes on..

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    http://www.adslguide.org.uk/newsarchive.asp?item=2420

    Looking into the future, a fibre system that can easily be run over existing telephone poles may lend itself to pushing fibre closer to residential customers in the form of VDSL.
    here is another good news post from ADSLGuide

    http://www.adslguide.org.uk/newsarchive.asp?item=2379

    For those who have no access to broadband todays press release from the BT Group offers some hope. BT Wholesale is to run a number of trials that will see DSLAMs installed in the street cabinet or adjacent to an existing cabinet. This DSLAM would then be connected back to the exchange using fibre optic cable, giving rise to the name of FTTC, fibre to the cabinet, sometimes also called FTTK, fibre to the kerb
    Now i've read this, it does ring a bell that i read it before, so thats probably where i got the idea from

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    Fibre to the Cabinet trials are going on at the moment although in which areas and to how many people I don't know.
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    Ah, that's kewl - thought for a minute there I'd missed plans to pipe glass to the customer - I could see that going horribly wrong.

    But FTTC is the next best thing, which as iMc confirms, is well in hand.. Just had a big comms service migration at work, so it's been topic of conversation.. lol.

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