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    Setting up 1st website, what do I need?

    Want to set up a website but no clue where to begin. Know vaguely you have to have a prog for writing the site, and something to host it on. apart from that, what else do you need.

    Can you also suggest programs(suitable for a beginner) to create the website and suggestions on what to look for in a host/suggestions for a host.

    btw, will want to include at some point pics and small vids on site, what are best formats for the files on the site?

    Any other tips/suggestions?
    I do know everything, just not all at once. It's a virtual memory problem.

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    u need notepad and a big book on html.

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    BEst format for pics is probably png (and it sounds coolest, its pronounced ping, or at least thats how i pronounce it), videos really depends, but probably xvid/divx for size/quality ratio, just depends if your viewers have the codecs, for compatibility probably wmv or mov is the best.

    I would second Davos that the best way to code it is in text, although id say something like html-edit would be better than notepad (syntax highlighting etc) although you can use frontpage (etc), the code is fairly bloated (uses nested tables for positioning, at least last time i used it), and not particularly cross browser compatible (at least in the case of frontpage). Obviously it depends on your target audience whether or not this is an issue for you.

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    i wasnt exactly suggesting the best way for your site is to code in text.....

    it is just very important that before you get into web design, that you code a few basic html pages first, as it will make trouble shooting a lot easier when you come to use a software package like dreamweaver or *shudders* frontpage.

    i will disagree with herulach and say the best format for images in GIF, as they are smallest in most cases. (gotta think of the 56kers)

    w3 is a great site for html tutorial, and many others. and of cours ehexus i ehre to help

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    Is it better for the website to have a theme or a mix of different things?

    If it does have a mix, what is the best way to make sure it doesn't look a mess?
    I do know everything, just not all at once. It's a virtual memory problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davos
    i wasnt exactly suggesting the best way for your site is to code in text.....

    it is just very important that before you get into web design, that you code a few basic html pages first, as it will make trouble shooting a lot easier when you come to use a software package like dreamweaver or *shudders* frontpage.

    i will disagree with herulach and say the best format for images in GIF, as they are smallest in most cases. (gotta think of the 56kers)

    w3 is a great site for html tutorial, and many others. and of cours ehexus i ehre to help
    Gifs???? I suppose it all depends what you want to do with it, photos and things tend to look a bit pants as gifs, although theyre fine for drawings/gradient backgrounds etc. Basically theres no 1 best, each is better at different things, i like ping as its a good compromise, goes nearly as small as gif (with animation and transparency) and looks as good as jpegs.

    If youre doing any sort of image gallery you definately want to thumbnail your images, just for ease of uses sake.

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    themes? thats where CSS comes into play, which we wont deal with just yet.

    the best way to decide layout of your site is to look at other peoples.

    what sort of things were you planning on putting on the site?

    www.sxgaming.com <----one of mine

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    What sort of size(mb) should I look for for hosting and how much is a reasonable amount to expect for hosting etc(would prefer free but would rather have an easy to find web address and better options from the host rather than the space given by my provider(ntl) as I gather my site add would be hosted at ntl and so would have a weird add to find).
    I do know everything, just not all at once. It's a virtual memory problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starbuck
    Is it better for the website to have a theme or a mix of different things?

    If it does have a mix, what is the best way to make sure it doesn't look a mess?
    Look at hexus as an example, basically the same theme everywhere, different colours for different bits of it, but all the rest is the same. You might want to google CSS zen garden and read up on some articles there once you can write some basic html, style sheets make life so much easier, and infact prettier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by herulach
    Gifs???? I suppose it all depends what you want to do with it, photos and things tend to look a bit pants as gifs, although theyre fine for drawings/gradient backgrounds etc. Basically theres no 1 best, each is better at different things, i like ping as its a good compromise, goes nearly as small as gif (with animation and transparency) and looks as good as jpegs.

    If youre doing any sort of image gallery you definately want to thumbnail your images, just for ease of uses sake.
    apologies, should have made it clear. for photographs, gif will suck

    for photos JPEG is your best bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davos
    what sort of things were you planning on putting on the site?

    Not 100% sure at the moment but thought of having a few pages on the site, 1 for photos, a main page, and other pages for other interests.
    I do know everything, just not all at once. It's a virtual memory problem.

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    ah so just a personal site.

    all to your preference then mate.

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    Use a CMS, take a look at Mambo, PHP Nuke and Joomla

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    for a first website? i would sugest against that

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    Like the idea of a theme style like hexus as the site covers a lot of different things but has the same thing running throughout. Was wondering how to tie it all together.

    btw, is it better to design the site(basically) before you start or just do it as you go along?
    I do know everything, just not all at once. It's a virtual memory problem.

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    What I would like in a design is one that leave plenty of room for expansion/tweaking once I get better as designing/coding. What I don't want to have to do is recode the site if I want to improve it or add more complex things(like flash) to it.
    I do know everything, just not all at once. It's a virtual memory problem.

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