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    Anyone ever done any long-range wireless ?

    Thinking of having a play with one of these
    Got a friend who lives about 1KM from me. We dont have direct LOS, but its farly close (mainly trees). Would be using 802.11a, so much better with a non LOS situation.
    Even if it didnt reach, would just be interested for the fun of it
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    I did have a play around with some long range equipment for a satellite project I did a while back. A lot of it was theory based though I did get some practical time in, compass bearings are the best way to line them up, we then got a laser pen out but don't think that'll work with trees in the way. The max range of a fairly standard 802.11a kit is about 500-600m outside. With a high gain antenna like that you could theoretically double the range. Definately worth a shot, though that antenna says its 360 degree, might be worth looking into a more directional one, Wireless networks are notoriously unsafe...
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    Regarding the safety of them : Would be WPA with MAC locking, and the internet wouldn’t be accessible from the connection anyway. Even if someone got into the network, they wouldn’t really find anything without going into the hassle of breaking into the FTP server too.
    Provided I have the money, I may give this a shot after my holiday
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    Me and my mate were getting into this a few years back. We were signed up to http://www.wirelesswales.net/ but after GCSE's and stuff i just sort of forgot about it. An alternative to netorking your computers albeit a lot less exciting is Hamachi which basically connects you through the internet privately through different nodes.

    Anyway forget that last bit coz your gonna go with the wireless coz its more fun and you'll have bragigng rights! All the best with it and let us know how you get on

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    WPA with MAC is fairly safe, MACs can be emulated but the only way to break WPA is through dictionary attacks, your fine for a simple network like yours. Let us know if you have any sucess! Are you both going to get insane aerials or just the one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RavenNight
    WPA with MAC is fairly safe, MACs can be emulated but the only way to break WPA is through dictionary attacks, your fine for a simple network like yours. Let us know if you have any sucess! Are you both going to get insane aerials or just the one?
    But getting the MAC in the first place is another thing !
    The keys on WPA will be set to the longest, random string of ASCII that is possible. Doing a dictionary attack just wouldn’t make sense. Would also change it regularly if needed.

    I think just one aerial at the moment and take it from there. If we do get 2, i need to find out how to link the 2 up together to act as one connection (bridge ?). Not really done anything like this before
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    Getting a MAC and switching your wireless kit to that MAC takes seconds if you know what your doing in Linux, WPA with random code is almost impossible to crack.

    If your going down the two aerial route either just whack one onto a router and one onto the card at the other end. Or just one on each card at each end and do an Ad-Hoc connection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RavenNight
    Getting a MAC and switching your wireless kit to that MAC takes seconds if you know what your doing in Linux...
    Its pretty easy to change it at a hardware level too with most cards . What im highlighting though is that you would need to know the MAC address to spoof in the first place. With the shear number of combinations of this too, that in its own right would take an age
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    With a copy of Ethereal and a wireless card it takes about 20 seconds.

    MAC addresses are unencypted
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    Really ?
    Well thats freaking stupid. Didnt realise that

    thanks for the info !
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    MAC security is just another layer ( albeit a thin one )
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