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    Unhappy Help setting up home LAN please!

    Hello everybody, Bit new to this forum so please bear with me! any help much appreciated.

    I want to set up a LAN at home to network 2 xp pc's together. Both pc's need to access internet independently, as both are not always turned on at the same time. At the moment pc 'a' has access to web via adsl modem.

    I want to hard wire the network, So i'm thinking about either running Cat5e or Cat6 cabling and terminators ect, not sure if Cat6 would be needed though, Want net as fast as possible but not sure both pc's have 'fast' ethernet cards.

    Now, pc 'b' has one ethernet port which im already using to connect xbox360 to pc, So i have bought another 10/100 NIC card which will be used for LAN. ---Just thought.. I could just fit a double rj45 termination socket? one outlet for pc one for 360?? Which would be better?

    So really I just need some clarification. Cat5e or Cat 6? also will I need to use a cross over? (when are cross overs used?) and am I right in thinking I need to connect each pc to router to ensure both pc's have independent web access? What kind of router?

    After all above taken care of, how easy is it to set up LAN!

    Once again thanks in advance for any help.

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    crossover are used to give one pc a connection from another, but this means one pc has to stay on, yes conecting to a router is the way to keep it independant, i would check the rating of your network card ect before you consider cat6..

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    As harry notes, a router is the way to go.

    Cat5e is rated for 1Gbps to 100 metres, so is as much as you're going to need. As far as the 360 is concerned - wire IT to the router as well. Then you don't need a second NIC.

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    Cheers guys! just one quiick point...how do i check rating of installed NIC cards? been on device mgr but it dont tell me the speed or details of card?

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    they are probably going to be a gigabit or less so i think cat 5 will be fine you wont get hardly any drop over the wire

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    if you go into dev mgr, double click the network adapter and then click the Advanced tab. Have a look for Link Speed & Duplex and see what the maximum rating there is - unless your PCs are pretty old it'll be at least 100Mbps. That said pretty much (if not all) switches built into a broadband router are 100Mbps, so having gigabit cards won't get you any faster. If you really (and I'd consider this carefully before splashing the cash) need a gigabit network you may need to invest in a small gigabit switch, but in all honesty 100Mbit will most likely be fine.

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    Just in case laying wires might be an issue (length, appearance etc) i've been reading quite surprisingly good things about ethernet over power devices, such as this Netgear
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    Hmmmmmm... Just been to maplins to pick up the bits and bats needed to build my network, cost me £35!!!

    15m Cat5e cable
    2 x rj45
    2 x backplates
    1 x 1m patch

    Most surprising thing was that all the wired routers were slower than their wireless equals! fastest wired ethernet router I found was 25Mbps, while majority of the wireless ones were 54Mpbs...

    Wondering if a wireless network may be quicker now? I though ethernet was 100Mbps? how come router is only capable of 25?

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    Sounds fishy to me.
    Either the person telling you this was pulling a fast one, or they sell dodgy stuff...
    I've never seen a router that wasnt 10/100 speeds (well, not in the past 5 years anyway)
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    Erm, that'll be the WAN side, given that 24Mbps is currently the fastest ADSL connection you can get. On the LAN side you'll be getting 100Mbps. Same deal for the Wireless ones - 54Mbps is your LAN side transfer rate and hence slower than wired.

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    Ups! Just figured out my mistake, 25Mpbs is relevent to the ADSL modem.. ie max download speed from line, nothing to do with ethernet speed

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    Erm, that'll be the WAN side, given that 24Mbps is currently the fastest ADSL connection you can get.
    Good thinking that man.
    It was the 25 that threw me, but 24 now seems obvious!
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    hmm seems I need some help again!

    Right, Finnished installing all mi cables and stuff earlier and everything fine, or so i thought. Because I needed the pc's ether net port for the LAN, I bought another NIC PCI card to provide internet access off the pc for the 360.

    Thing is, the pc can connect to the net fine via 1st NIC card, but the new card which has the 360 plugged into it has no net access.

    Tried everything I can think of, setting up new network connections ect and also tried to 'bridge' connections but wont let me do it?

    Any ideas greatly appreciated

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    Why aren't you just wiring the 360 straight to the router?

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    Router is located about 30 odd meters away in another room, wanted to avoid running another cable as i have already run one length of cat5e cable for.

    its like this,

    room 'A' - has router, next to phone line, and pc 'A' connected directly to router.

    room 'B' - has pc 'B' and xbox360, which both need net access. To this room from router, I have run one length of cat5e cable and rj45 outlet. Since only have one rj45 socket, I bought another NIC card so pc would have two. One NIC connects to rj45 outlet and the other connects to xbox360. The NIC that connects directly to rj45 is working fine, and pc has net access ect. But now need second card to share this connection, to provide 360 with net access.

    Is this possible?
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    you can pass the connection to the 360 like you did in the first instance, when you connected pcB through pcA. However, the PC will have to be on whenever you want to be connected to the internet on the 360. you could buy another cheap switch and just sit it beside pcB to route the internet to the 360 and the PC.

    Im not too clued up on ADSL though, as i've got cable, so i'm always on

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