Reactivating Vista after Mobo Change

[danroyle]

When it happens, yep. Still, there's no MS employee here to moan at (that I'm aware of), so I'd just be shouting and arguing with my own echoes.

kinda see your point gav but according to ms before vista came out they were planning on a points system for oem 9 points for board change that kinda thing as alot of people would be using hardware not fully supported by vista and then upgrading so they were plannning to give oem users a little grace the frist 6 months or so of release


so everyones arguments here maybe completely wasted as if they did do this then he is doing nothing wrong

[kalniel]

If I paid for a TV I damn well want a TV. If the shop does not give me the TV I paid for, or decides to not return it after warranty repair, then they will have a very pleasant meeting in court. Your example of borrowing a TV is fatally flawed and bears no relation to Vista licensing.

Actually you just made it relate very well - if you paid for a TV you deserve a TV.

If you paid for a version of windows that runs on different hardware setups then you deserve one.

If you deliberately decided on a cut back version that only runs on one hardware setup, to save money, then you deserve that too.

No-one isn't getting what they paid for - you have the choice to pay for exactly the right thing for your usage.

But if you paid for a 14 inch TV you don't deserve a 71 inch plasma. That would be silly.

As as for speeding - the 'I'll do it as long as I'm not caught' arguement is really dumb. If you don't agree with the law then petition to get it changed, don't just pick and choose what laws to obey or not.

[kalniel]

kinda see your point gav but according to ms before vista came out they were planning on a points system for oem 9 points for board change that kinda thing as alot of people would be using hardware not fully supported by vista and then upgrading so they were plannning to give oem users a little grace the frist 6 months or so of release


so everyones arguments here maybe completely wasted as if they did do this then he is doing nothing wrong

Except that's covered by distance selling regs I'd have thought - you have 7 days to evaluate your purchase and that's when you should find out if your hardware is supported or not. No idea if that applies to software or not though.

[Splash]

Paul Adams is an MS employee

But don't moan at him, because he's a Good Guy.

It seems that Microsoft really can't win - if they were only to release one version of Vista they would be moaned at for not being flexible to their customers needs, so they released various different price points with various different features and guess what? It's not fair.

To reiterate what I have said in the past - compare the price for Vista Home Premium retail with the XP Pro retail and you may be shocked to see that XP cost more.

[behappier]

To reiterate what I have said in the past - compare the price for Vista Home Premium retail with the XP Pro retail and you may be shocked to see that XP cost more.

That's because XP gives you a fax functionality...

[dangel]

compare the price for Vista Home Premium retail with the XP Pro retail and you may be shocked to see that XP cost more.

I'm not happy with that comparison - was XP Pro aimed at home users? What's it equivilent now? Certainly not 'home premium' now is it? Surely it has to be Vista Business versus XP Pro? You can't upgrade from XP Pro to any home edition of Vista AFAIK - it's clean install time.

I'm still reckoning a jaunt to the USA on a plane is cheaper than paying UK retail frankly.

[0iD]

I did it today, one of our workstations died. I replaced the mobo with one I had to hand, which was an Abit & not a Gigabyte like the orig. Had to call up to activate but wasn't a problem. Same as with XP, pretty painless.

[directhex]

I did it today, one of our workstations died. I replaced the mobo with one I had to hand, which was an Abit & not a Gigabyte like the orig. Had to call up to activate but wasn't a problem. Same as with XP, pretty painless.

switching brands isn't a problem. as long as it's a "direct" replacement in the event of hardware failure, there's no issue. direct doesn't necessarily mean identical, as boards stop getting manufactured after a while

[chis]

It helps to stick to similar chipsets. Don't switch Intel -> SiS or VIA -> Intel. Not that it won't work, but you're more likely to need to do a repair install AND reactivate Windows.

[Kumagoro]

Whenever I see this argument I always think of this

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It must really make some people burn inside seeing people watch TV through shop windows, when they dont have a TV license. They are pushing up your license fee, the swines.

[Supershanks]

More fuel 4 the fire

How to run Vista legally without activation ... for at least a year

Microsoft calls it a 'hack,' researcher, a 'documented feature'

[Clunk]

Can someone that knows for sure, answer me this..

Am I actually breaking UK law by buying Vista oem and treating it like a retail copy and getting microsoft to reactivate it every few weeks after motherboard changes etc, or am I just breaking microsofts licensing rules?

This is just for debating purposes before anyone starts moaning

[danroyle]

Can someone that knows for sure, answer me this..

Am I actually breaking UK law by buying Vista oem and treating it like a retail copy and getting microsoft to reactivate it every few weeks after motherboard changes etc, or am I just breaking microsofts licensing rules?

This is just for debating purposes before anyone starts moaning

yes you are

[Clunk]

yes you are

So am I.

But what was the answer to the question?

[danroyle]

So am I.

But what was the answer to the question?

ask this is gav he will tell you exactly what is legal and what isnt

[this_is_gav]

LOL - wouldn't have a clue to be honest. Law is anything but a speciality of mine.

It's a difficult one. It obviously can't be copyright theft (you pay for the license, not the media), but is it common theft? Does breaking the licensing agreement count as stealing?

I know I could be jailed and/or fined if I didn't license our software at work, so in that sense, I guess it must be against the law in some respect. I just don't know in which way.