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    Exclamation Will's '07 PC Build

    The crunch point has been reached. My old PC will no longer run the games I want to play. Time to throw some money at the issue!

    In a nut shell I want to:

    • Build an AMD machine which will require least replacement parts to fully upgrade to an Agena CPU. (mobo and cpu only preferrably)
    • Have some overclocking potential before and after CPU upgrade
    • Run very quiet/silent at stock speeds
    • Include a DX10 Card for futureproofing
    • Dual boot XP Pro 64 and Vista Ultimate 64 (OEMs)


    After several weeks of reading review after review I've got a potential PC spec in mind:

    Akasa Mirage-62
    X2 6000+ (£156.28! :-))
    Asus MN32SLI Deluxe - Single high end Graphics card, Crossfire not planned
    2GB (2x1GB) CorsairTwinX XMS2 Dominator,DDR2 PC2-6400, CAS 4-4-4-12
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    Criticism ...I mean advice... constructive or otherwise greatfully received

    /Will

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    core2duo own the market at the mo... would go for AMD unless its for a cheap media centre rig tbh...

    they offer great overclocking potential as well.. and a e4300 can be had for about 95 quid...

    get a p5b deluxe,abit quadgt etc as a mobo (good mobos IMO)

    ram is but consider the 110~ OCZ pc2-6400 ram around now for 2 gb its a bargain.

    its up to you if you want to wait for aTI's counter dx10 variant but are there any dates when it will be launched?? perhaps get a medium/low spec card now until they are actually relased.

    theres my 2 cents

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    I also fail to see why anyone would buy an AM2 system....

    You are basically buying new CPU, mobo and RAM....if you are doing that then C2D is THE way to go, hands down....

    Every single C2D I have seen reaches 3.2GHz easily with a half-decent mobo, an Arctic cooler and PC6400 RAM....that leaves any AMD system in the dust and the CPU costs < &#163;100.

    If you are dead set on the ATI DX10 card and the AMD CPU, then I would wait until both are released and then you can see what they are like.......no one here has any idea what they will perform like and can only give you advice on what is available now.
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    Good call on wanting to build a system ready for Agena. All looks good to me - obviously you'll be holding off for when the parts come out, so I'd in particular look out for any new motherboard revisions in anticipation. Agena is going to be one of those parts which while fitting an AM2 socket, I wouldn't be surprised if it required some tweaks.

    As far as silence in concerned, I don't think NVidia motherboard chipsets do all that well - perhaps consider an AMD/ATI chipset? They're also more likely to be tweaked to better match the Agena.

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    Agena fitting AM2 will allow me to get the CPU first and then upgrade the mobo when some decent designs are released and tested here at Hexus

    Although C2Ds are ahead at the moment, running at stock speeds there doesn't seems to be a huge performance gulf between a C2D 6600 and an X2 6000+. After the recent AMD price cuts the X2 looks even more attractive as a stop gap CPU.

    I had a good look at Xpress 3200 mobos but was dissapointed by their comparative performance. Obviously waiting till the next revision is released (RV790) would be best but not knowing the release schedule is frustrating

    The latest I've read seems to support the R600 mass availablility date as being May some time.

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    The reason being, the Q6600 is already on the market and it'll be getting a huge price drop this month, AMD/ATI are lagging way behind Intel/nVidia, it's as simple as that. The latter also have much better support with a wide array of operating systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will101 View Post
    Although C2Ds are ahead at the moment, running at stock speeds there doesn't seems to be a huge performance gulf between a C2D 6600 and an X2 6000+.
    You did talk in the opening post as if you wanted to overclock.....if you actually do, what's the point in comparing at stock speeds?
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    I place more importance on quietness than overclocking. 90% of the time stock speeds will most likely be enough and passive water cooling should hopefully be capable of cooling the system. It'll be good to have the option to crank up the speeds if I need to but I won't be trying to push the cpu to the limit.

    I don't want a blazing fast PC with fans a go go, I want a PC that will do most things and isn't a drain to sit in front of for long periods.

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    Looks fine, that PSU is fantastic
    Ram you could save some money buy grabbing a cheaper set Geil High Performance 6400 2 gig sets can be had for &#163;100 now (Not value stuff!)

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    Is it actually confirmed the agena will fit in AM2 boards?

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    scrap the ram for geil or standard xms2 as has already been said.

    the 6000+ is generally better than the e6600 at stock speeds but with the light overclocking the e6600 will eat it alive. I don't believe there is much room for overclocking the 6000+ as thats all AMD have done to get it to 3.0GHz.

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    Like I said... wait.. Intel is dropping it's prices to criminal levels this month.
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    It's built!

    Aside from some minor things like applying the foam sound absorbtion mats and wiring up the Scythe Karma meter to the fans and temp sensors it's looking pretty good

    Seeing as it's my first build using the newer slots and sockets I took it slow and read the manual as I went along. That did mean finishing at 1am but it was worth it! A few nice touches like these kept it looking nice and like I meant the wires to be all together. Heh.

    The main issue I had was that the Artic Cooling cpu cooler would be facing either up or down when installed and not towards the back of the case as wanted. Luckily you can turn the clamp round 90 degrees which solved that one. Having the VRM fins on the ASUS M2N32 around the CPU slot neccessitated easing the lowest two fins on the cpu cooler up the heat pipes using some snipe nosed pliers. This worked and it all fits very snugly with the fan surround just touching the dominator's heat spreader on the other side!

    First thing this morning I put the panels on the case including the windowed side panel and I have to say I'm happy with the result. There'll be no bling around here you understand, just being able to see the intenals without having to take the panel off which is pretty useful.

    Next up is seeing if I can get some raid drivers installed before I put XP on! Then Vista then BF2 & GTR2 then job done!

    Mmmm, DX10 goodness.

    I remember the graphical improvement when playing Need for speed underground after upgrading from a Geforce MX440 to a 5700 Ultra. I can only wonder on the improvement this time

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    you do know to take full advantage of the new K10 processors you need a socket AM2+ or socket F motherboard the K10's will work with am2 boards but not anywhere near as efficiently as on an AM2+ the motherboards aren't out yet they are suppose to start being released next month.....

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    Sticking with AM2 was a gamble but it could work out quite nicely with the next range of chips..who knows.. + non + might effect it.

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