any one still using a athlon64 fx53 ?
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any one still using a athlon64 fx53 ?
i take that as a no then :surprised:
Didn't the FX53 require ECC Registered DDR? I think that was what killed it...
not sure :juggle:Quote:
Originally Posted by dave87
Indeed, wasn't it the last of the old S940 series. I still have an s940 opteron 150, does the job admirably, stable as you like.
the fx53's i have seen are s939
They came in two flavours. The first itineration was s940, then s939 came along.
how do the s939 hold up in todays programs/games ?
FX53 = 2.4GHz single core, alright I suppose, nothing to shout about. Unlocked multiplier though for overclocking goodness...
S939 in general = Gotta Opteron 170 at 2.6GHz here and it handles everything I throw at it with ease.
i was going to get the a64 4000 but it is locked to 12x , if i get a fx53 off of ebay i think my mobo will let me overclock it
IMO you are better of getting any dual core one...
whats the point of that ? , most of the games etc do not use both the cores
It's not too future proof though is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by chaotic_russ
so getting a lower powered dual core will help in future programs/games ?
Probably, if you've got dual core at 1.8GHz and you have a program that will utilise more than one core you have effectively a 3.6GHz CPU (please correct me if I'm misrepresenting).Quote:
Originally Posted by chaotic_russ
Don't look at clock speed. I've gone from a Prescott P4 3.4GHZ to a 2.13GHz Dual core e6400. And the e6400 is more efficient and cooler than the P4.
If you are looking at upgrading your s939 CPU, I don't know what to recommend...
I'd probably salvage what I could (like the 8800GTS) and go c2d.
Dual Core doesn't mean that you suddenly get twice the performance - ie 2x2ghz (as my laptop is) is not 4ghz.
Rather, you get the opportunity to share the load over two cores, meaning that should 1 app be single threaded, it can use one core in its entirety, while other processes use the other core. So that is why 2 cores will be faster than the same speed single core, even with single threaded apps.
Multithreaded apps are a whole different ballgame, but quite rare afaik.
Well for games on 939 I would say 3GHz single core is probably equivalent to about 2.7GHz dual core due to the fact that one core can be dedicated for the game, whilst the other will take care of background tasks.
Yup, sounds about right, unless your PC is spyware/virii/malware infested....
mine should be clean from that lot ;) , what app's / games use dual core ?
Not a clue, with the x1300 in my laptop I stay away from recent titles, especially at the 1680x1050 my laptop's screen runs at (plus the 1280x1024 that the secondary screen runs)
don't dismiss the dual core off so easily. an x2 4200 at stock speeds can beat a single core opteron at 2.8ghz, i noticed the difference when i switched while my cpu was being rma'ed. the dual cores arent that less powerful than the fx 53. on the tomshardware tests the 4200 x2 vs the fx 53 shows its pretty much the same and some tests it beats it.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaotic_russ
video encoding, audio encoding, graw uses 2 cores im pretty sure, 2nd one for physics processing, quake 4 has a patch for it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaotic_russ
does hl2/hl2 ep1 or fear use dual core ?
They don't, but if you're trying to hold onto S939 I don't suggest getting another single core as you've already got a 2.4GHz chip, it'd be pointless.
Pick up a cheap X2 4200+ and at 1280x1024 your GTS will rip through games.
I played thro FEAR & Extraction point, HL ep1, Sin Episodes 1 etc with an Opti150 & a 7800GS agp card with no worries.
If you're looking to eek the final few drops out of s939 then I wouldn't bother getting a dual core. Longer term is a different matter of course.
Supreme commander is a prime example of a mutlicore game, it utilises the quad cores very nicely indeed.
If you are buying a new cpu now there is no point at all in getting a sinlge core cpu, there may not be many applications that use multicores now but within a year one core will simply be woefully inadequate, new programmes will be written with dual or quad core in mind.
You could probably pick up a core 2 for the same price as an FX53, would make more sense.
i wonder if the prices of the x2 cpu's will go down more when the new amd cpu's come out ?
Unlikely, they will probably stay the same as all of us on 939 single core will wanna switch to x2 still...Quote:
Originally Posted by chaotic_russ
they'll probably be extinct by then, and then they'll all be circulating on ebay again.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaotic_russ
i like the look of the 939 fx60 , i have seen one on ebay for £340 (a little to expensive for me though)
?!
For less than £340 you could set yourself up with...
- Intel Core 2 Duo 6320 ~ £107.56
- Asus P5B Deluxe ~ £109.28
- 2GB Corsair TwinX DDR2 PC6400 ~ £92.70
Total ~ £309.54
... and it would overclock WELL beyond the performance of an FX60 - exactly how much are you willing to spend?
As NightshadowUK said above. Spending £340 on a 939 cpu would be a complete waste of money.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaotic_russ
thats what i was thinking , i just want something to tide me over till i make the change to a new quad core system :angst:Quote:
Originally Posted by s_kinton
Think about it for £340 you can get a decent c2d setup as said above, that'll be plenty powerful enough for now.
That way you'll also be ready to drop a quad core straight into your mobo, you'll already have ddr2 etc etc. If you buy the FX60, you'll still need a whole new system when you go quad c2d and you'll have spent the same.
well the x2 4200 is much cheaper than a fx and the dual and quad core amd's will be here H2, or late Q2 or early Q3.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaotic_russ
I have an Opteron S939 at 2.5 ghz with 2 gig of ram.
I borrowed a 4800+ (dual core) and it was much better for gaming.
I know the dual cores weren't officially utilized for any of the games I played (FEAR, IL-2 1946) but it was much better.
Why? Because Windows was running on one core I guess. The game booted to the other core.
I noticed it and noticed it when I went back to a single core? Why did I return to a single? (didnt want to mind you)
Its becauase lots of games based on the Unreal Tournament engine have an issue with dual cores.
Its an error called Negative Delta Time, where the CPU is used to set the speed the game will run at everytime you boot the game, and then the second core kicks in and the game throws a wobbler and drops you out.
Google it: Negative Delta Time Dual COre.
Some people sussed it with patches for the CPU. others didn't and I wasnt prepared to risk it with Lineage2, as it died on me far to many times with the dual core in.
HAven't tried since, and that was late last year.
Oo l2 player and ut player eh :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Zak33
i had those negative delta time problems. with thief deadly shadows and lineage 2. unreal tournament was fine tho. and the dual core optimizer and drivers fix that anyway. even if it still persists. you can download a tool called imgcfg to set the affinity of the .exe to whichever core you like. Ill upload the drivers pack for you.
Here you go:
http://rapidshare.com/files/30342340...re_Drivers.rar
Anyone else feel free to download and upload to their ftp, website etc. its only 11mb so rapidshare wont limit you when you download it :)