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    a little help

    just want to know if you guys think that this is a justified run down that I gave to a guys system on another forum:

    This is not hate mail this just a breakdown of why your pc wasn't the most effective way to spend your money. I just want to help you so that next time you can save some money and still have a WOW factor pc. It appears to me like you just went to a website found the most expensive components and bought them

    Enermax Galaxy 1000W EGA1000EWL ATX2.2 Modular PSU.

    The 1000W power supply is a mistake at current no gaming pc would use that much power as you can see by my sig my pc isn't the best parts but theyre all high end and theyre running off of 420W my server which has 10x750gb hdd's, 2, dvd burners,4gb of ram, qx6600 and in total 15 fans. runs off of 550W. Enermax is a good brand and its modular which is obviously good for wire management

    Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite Pro 7.1 Soundcard.

    good card from what I have hear it runs flawlessly but I use my onboard though as it is sufficient for my uses, So soundcards aren't my expertise.


    Zalman Reserator2 Fanless Water Cooling System.

    I thought about buying this for a mini-itx (6"x7" mobo) build as obviously I would never be able to fit the watercooler into a mini itx case. With your budget though a phase changer would of been a better choice


    (2x) Seagate Cheetah 10K.7 300GB ST3300007LC 10,000RPM SCSI 8MB Cache (Ultra 320-SC2 80 Pin).

    those better be in Raid0 configuration!!!! These hdd's are ridiculously over priced with the samsung spinpoints costing less then a quarter of the price and easily 3 times the capacity and all you suffer in performance are an extra 4 seconds whilst loading windows or games. I don't think its worth the money

    Crucial 16GB (4x4GB) DDR2 PC2-5300C5 Dual Channel Kit.

    As I have said before that is enough ram for a medium sized business server to run even memory hungry windows vista has no noticeable benefit in performance after 4gb. Plus it was a waste as ddr3 is coming out next year and by 2009-10 ddr3 will be the new standard before any program/game/OS will be released that needs that much ram.

    Asus Striker Extreme nForce 680 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard

    good board but overpriced but with your components your probably one of the very few people who could justify the price for the support that they need for there components.

    Intel Core 2 Quad Extreme Edition QX6800 "LGA775 Kentsfield" 2.93GHz

    the QX6700 is suppose to be the sweet spot for quad core you shouldn't ever go top of the line for a series of processors as you pay a premium for having this wow component that in 3 months time is just average. e.g. the e6700 was £100 more then a e6600 when I bought my cpu now all you get for that extra £100 is 200mhz faster performance they are both exactly the same chip in practice but one has that 200mhz extra a e6600 can overclock to 3.6ghz the best someone has reached that I have heard about is 5.67ghz simple maths it isn't worth that extra £100 when you can do it at home


    LiteOn LH-2B1S-490C 2x BD-R/RE Blu-Ray SATA DVD Writer

    although I want blu-ray to win the format war as it is the larger capacity disc it may not so you just gambled £800 to get the latest technology on a maybe, and with your hdd space you can hardly store any highdef discs so why are there two lol I would of if i had to have blu-ray bought one raptor or cheetah and then buy 6x500gb in raid5 you can store the data from your brand new blu-ray disks and because the games and OS are on the cheetah you lose no performance

    BFG GeForce 8800 GTX Extreme WaterCooled 768MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI

    good brand, good card and good choice if you can't be bothered with the hassle of adding a watercooling connector for yourself

    I am not the most knowledgeable person on here so If anyone with a valid reason wants me to edit my post then I will but I think that these are all acceptable reasons why each component wasn't the best choice

    Quote Originally Posted by vernong1992 View Post
    khan plz read this article...

    The High Cost of Gaming

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    agree with the power supply bit and the blu ray bit

    if you really want blu ray wait till it has actually won the format wars and the speeds get better.


    never read whole post thoroughly so imonly commented on these two

    hope ive helped

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    There will always be people with more money than knowledge, everything you said was justified but I fear it fell on deaf ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightshadowUK View Post
    There will always be people with more money than knowledge, everything you said was justified but I fear it fell on deaf ears.
    lol it did indeed he said how he is an architect and its his money to spend if he wants to that system cost him over £5,000 and to be honest it isn't even that nice

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    If the person wanted constructive criticism, then that's what he(she) got, but I suspect he(she) wasn't. If he(she) is happy (or can justify on the expense account), then good luck.

    People who buy the latest (and greatest?) kit do us all a favour, as if everybody just bought the cheapest cpu, etc. then Co.s wouldn't be able to invest in R&D. Plus, eventually, (maybe after only a couple of months) the good stuff gets incorporated into the stuff that the average person can afford to buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saltynay View Post

    Enermax Galaxy 1000W EGA1000EWL ATX2.2 Modular PSU.

    The 1000W power supply is a mistake at current no gaming pc would use that much power as you can see by my sig my pc isn't the best parts but theyre all high end and theyre running off of 420W my server which has 10x750gb hdd's, 2, dvd burners,4gb of ram, qx6600 and in total 15 fans. runs off of 550W.
    I fully agree with the point your making here, 1000w PSU is over kill for most people, having said that i think you may be pushing your luck with your server, all that running of a 550w PSU... anyone smell burning..

    I had an antec 420w true power, which went up in smoke after a month or so running my current system, probably a freak occurrence granted, but i firmly believe if you’re going to throw money at a new system don't skimp on the PSU, many people still overlook getting a decent PSU.
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    10 HDDs at 10W a peice, 100W, Q6600 at 105W, motherboard maybe 95W at the high end?.. I think 550W is more than enough, even moreso if it's a quality PSU.
    Quote Originally Posted by Agent View Post
    ...every time Creative bring out a new card range their advertising makes it sound like they have discovered a way to insert a thousand Chuck Norris super dwarfs in your ears...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    10 HDDs at 10W a peice, 100W, Q6600 at 105W, motherboard maybe 95W at the high end?.. I think 550W is more than enough, even moreso if it's a quality PSU.
    And the rest of the system not specified, all i'm saying is why run the risk of frying a PSU, a couple of extra notes for a PSU that is more than capable, and also future proof.
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    You're hardly going to stuff 2x8800GTX cards in SLi mode in a server now, don'tcha think?
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    its just a bull thread.

    what do you think of this system I'm thinking of getting


    1 TB of 1-1-1-1 RAM

    40 5000gig 25k SCSI drives

    2 19 gig fcal disks

    8 quad core xeons

    ooh and 12 Nvidia 9200's in SLI x2 mode.

    Costs 10k, but I'm a lier and its my fantasy to waste
    It is Inevitable.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by ikonia View Post
    its just a bull thread.

    what do you think of this system I'm thinking of getting


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    40 5000gig 25k SCSI drives

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    8 quad core xeons

    ooh and 12 Nvidia 9200's in SLI x2 mode.

    Costs 10k, but I'm a lier and its my fantasy to waste
    Nice, when are you building it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Agent View Post
    ...every time Creative bring out a new card range their advertising makes it sound like they have discovered a way to insert a thousand Chuck Norris super dwarfs in your ears...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ikonia View Post
    its just a bull thread.

    what do you think of this system I'm thinking of getting


    1 TB of 1-1-1-1 RAM

    40 5000gig 25k SCSI drives

    2 19 gig fcal disks

    8 quad core xeons

    ooh and 12 Nvidia 9200's in SLI x2 mode.

    Costs 10k, but I'm a lier and its my fantasy to waste

    You forgot the gold plated keyboard and mouse !
    Hark the children of the Resolution !!

    http://trust.hexus.net/user_profile.php?user=7798

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    Quote Originally Posted by saltynay View Post
    Zalman Reserator2 Fanless Water Cooling System.

    I thought about buying this for a mini-itx (6"x7" mobo) build as obviously I would never be able to fit the watercooler into a mini itx case. With your budget though a phase changer would of been a better choice
    Actually I disagree with that point.

    The Zalman Reserator is good at cooling very quietly. If the purchaser wants a high spec system but does not want to hear the whirr of fans all day long, then this would be a good choice to cool his CPU and Gfx card. If he has built a SFF system then it will be the only practical choice.

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    Quote:
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    its just a bull thread.

    what do you think of this system I'm thinking of getting


    1 TB of 1-1-1-1 RAM

    40 5000gig 25k SCSI drives

    2 19 gig fcal disks

    8 quad core xeons

    ooh and 12 Nvidia 9200's in SLI x2 mode.

    Costs 10k, but I'm a lier and its my fantasy to waste



    You forgot the gold plated keyboard and mouse !
    Wouldn't it be that Optimus keyboard? It's expensive enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goose View Post
    Wouldn't it be that Optimus keyboard? It's expensive enough
    Custom modified Optimus keyboard with gold plating
    Quote Originally Posted by Agent View Post
    ...every time Creative bring out a new card range their advertising makes it sound like they have discovered a way to insert a thousand Chuck Norris super dwarfs in your ears...

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