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    More flipping NIGHTMARE!!!!!!

    Hello all,

    I have recently changed the heatpaste on my motherboard and CPU (thanks to whoever it was who linked me the guide)

    The motherboard seemed to go pretty smoothly and i think i did everythig ok however when i did the CPU i think i got cleaning fluid inbetween the metal chip and the plasic its set on AND i got heatpaste inbtween the contacts on the bottom of the CPU

    After doing my best to clean up my mess, i then i put the computer back together and tried to boot. I got nothing no beeps, no bios, no image on the screen at all.

    I know i have buggered something but i do not have a clue what, im assuming its the CPU but im desperately hoping its not. Im going to a mates house tomorrow so i can try my CPU in his comp then hes coming to mine to try the same thing but i was wondering if anyone has any ideas? (preferably solutions )

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    u tried a cmos reset? or reseating the cpu?

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    If the above doesn't work, my best guess would be that the thermal paste is electrically conductive and is shorting out the pins on the CPU. If that's the case, try working away very carefully with a fine brush until it looks clean under a magnifying glass. You could even use a moist brush as long as you make sure its properly dry afterwards (use a hair dryer on low for instance). And no, water won't hurt electronics at all as long as it's dried off promptly.

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    Agrippa - water won't hurt it as long as it's dried off and switched off <giggle>

    But seriously, Biscuit, I've had a few moments like that and it's rarely what you suspect. Have you checked the PSU is plugged in properly at both ends (and working)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeborn View Post
    Agrippa - water won't hurt it as long as it's dried off and switched off <giggle>
    Yeah, switching stuff off first is absolutely a good thing I hear.

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    well thing is everything starts spinning and whirring away so power is there... iv tried using minimal componants plugged in so plenty of power. I'll have another bash at cleaning the cpu again tomorrow. what happens when I boot up is I get no beeps or signal through the monitor, in the past that has been buggered cpu. could it be possible that iv got crap inbetween the metal die and the plastic its set on? is it likely to be a cpu or mobo issue? if it is buggered, it means moving to c2d. no big loss I guess but I was planning to stick around for ddr3 b4 an upgrade! wish I had left things alone sooooooo much

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    What paste were you using? If you take the CPU out (obsaerve all the usual anti-static precautions) and examine the socket with a magnifying glasss to see if there is paste on/in the socket. Do the same with the CPU. If there is any in the socket, you will need to clean it socket VERY carefully to avoid forcing the paste further into the pin holes (more of a problem if it is a non-conductive paste) Similarly with the CPU. Don't use a nylon or any sysnthetic bristle material (unless it is damp) but use IPA in an aerosol to blast away the paste. Avoid touching the pins if possible.

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    well the paste that I got on the bottom that sort of linked the pins was some crappy cheap stuff from a local shop at home b4 I really got into things properly. its metalic looking so I tried to scrape it off with a pin... nothing else would fit. the question remains, is it more likely to be mobo or cpu? mate can't make it to check and I'm back into home-town on sun so no real way I can check... :s

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    Equally likely to be CPU and MB I'd say....

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    Take everything off that you messed with (i.e. replaced cooling materials on) and use some ArtiClean thermal material remover and surface purifier.

    Clean up the pins etc and the whole CPU with the thermal Material Remover and allow to dry then use the purifier (don't be shy on how much you apply of the purifier as it is only an alcohol based solution or something that will evaporate any residue on the surfaces). Do the same with the motherboard and then reapply some of the thermal materials (ONLY USE A SMALL AMOUNT).

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    I've also found that using cotton tips soaked in cleaning fluid can help... although it gets trickier the further into the pins you go.
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    Half a bottle of acetone and a few hours worth of painstaking repetetive labour later and i managed to get my computer up and running. I think it may have been the heatpaste between the pins on the CPU however i took the heatsink off the motherboard again and redid the paste on that just to be sure. I think part of the problem was the nail polish remover i was using (another reason to hate my ex girlfriend....), once i switched to 100% acetone everything came to a sparkly clean much easier!

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    Hmmm. Nail Polish Remover??? Rather you than me. I'm surprised that your wee beastie is still working. Also if you use Acetone you'd be better off "rinsing" with Isopropyl Alcohol afterwards. Hope you didn't spill any on the motherboard.

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    tooth brush and gin.

    works a treat for getting the pins clean

    Did this very thing last week with my new 3800+ when I moodged Artic Silver 5 in the edge pins,

    Everyone should have a few old toothbrushes for PC stuff. Also very good for cleaning fan blades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorsson View Post
    Hmmm. Nail Polish Remover??? Rather you than me. I'm surprised that your wee beastie is still working. Also if you use Acetone you'd be better off "rinsing" with Isopropyl Alcohol afterwards. Hope you didn't spill any on the motherboard.
    I couldnt get hold of any of this didnt knowwhere to get it from. I didnt get any anywhere apart from the chips that i was cleaning. It all seemed to evapourate off fine and its working now so im not going to fiddle at all.

    I might redo the heatpaste on the CPU because i may have put a little too much on. Gunna wait for it to 'set' or 'warm-in' whatever its called

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    tooth brush and gin.

    works a treat for getting the pins clean

    Did this very thing last week with my new 3800+ when I moodged Artic Silver 5 in the edge pins,

    Everyone should have a few old toothbrushes for PC stuff. Also very good for cleaning fan blades.
    Dunno bout gin, has a fair amount of water content doesnt it? as for the tooth brushes thats good idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    I couldnt get hold of any of this didnt knowwhere to get it from. I didnt get any anywhere apart from the chips that i was cleaning. It all seemed to evapourate off fine and its working now so im not going to fiddle at all.

    I might redo the heatpaste on the CPU because i may have put a little too much on. Gunna wait for it to 'set' or 'warm-in' whatever its called



    Dunno bout gin, has a fair amount of water content doesnt it? as for the tooth brushes thats good idea
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=TH-000-AC

    I wouldn't use any drinking alcohol for cleaning as it does contain water as well as other things.

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