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    AD-HOC network storage for 1TB NAS box?

    can you connect a network storage box to the LAN port on your computer? is there any way the network protocols TCP/IP /Microsoft networks would prevent you from using a crossover cable rather than a router?


    this seems kind of decent...any recommendations for Dual-HDD?
    http://svp.co.uk/products-solo.php?pid=2337
    also available at CPC,

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    Can I ask what's probably a very dumb question? If what you want is direct attached storage, why would you want to do that over ethernet? I mean, as long as the two machines are on the same IP subnet, yes, it should work, I guess, but USB2 or Firewire'd surely be a better option? Or eSATA?
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    You'll need a cross over cable as opposed to a normal patch cable.

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    ad hoc nas for definite with a crossover?

    FireWire is more buggy than LAN, it can't be hot plugged because of the risk of burning the port, and I have a laptop so I have a four pin plug .

    it does have many advantages, but I'm also using a fairly buggy sound card on FireWire and I think MIDI/audio/hard drives FireWire chain would go tits up.

    also most network drives also have USB and FireWire options and are more versatile.
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    You'll have to configure windows to provide the NAS box with an IP address, i think internet connection sharing wizard should do that for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viet cong zombi View Post
    ad hoc nas for definite with a crossover?

    FireWire is more buggy than LAN, it can't be hot plugged because of the risk of burning the port, and I have a laptop so I have a four pin plug .

    it does have many advantages, but I'm also using a fairly buggy sound card on FireWire and I think MIDI/audio/hard drives FireWire chain would go tits up.

    also most network drives also have USB and FireWire options and are more versatile.
    Burning the port? Sorry if I'm missing something obvious but what? Firewire is designed to be hot-pluggable too. The obvious benefit of attaching a NAS to your router is that it's accesible even when what would be your host PC is off - if you don't need that functionality I don't see why you would need a NAS.

    Again, I may be (and indeed probably am) missing the point - if so please clarify!

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    And having a 4 pin plug on your laptop isn't an isue either

    get either a 6pin to 4pin cable:


    or an adapter

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    splash-I don't want everyone to see my personal external hard drive and also I want it in my bedroom so I can turn it off for the night and while I am browsing etc


    when FireWire came out there were lots of reports of people plugging in cameras and frying the FireWire port on their computer and the camera, so manufacturers of 1394 bus powered hardware issue a big warning to say don't plug it in while the computer is on and don't support fried ports returns...i.e. there has been a very big issue with it.

    that's a good point about the pins, but I'm pretty sure that on my particular Intel chipset in the laptop the FireWire is barely able to support my sound card due to some kind of shared memory buffer underrun, so I wouldn't want to plug something else in and I prefer lan anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viet cong zombi View Post
    when FireWire came out...
    Firewire was created in 1990 by apple, by 1995 virtually every camcorder has has this connection. That was 12 years ago! You don't think that they might have sorted these problems by now?

    Anyway, a firewire disk isn't going to be buss powered. Especially because the 4pin port on your laptop doesn't provide power in the first place.

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    I know but that's just one of the three reasons, I didnt manage to find any information on the net is saying that the burnt FireWire ports were only six pins although it does make total sense.I just rather hot plug something which doesn't have warranty invalidation warnings.
    the current version of FireWire is a revision I'm sure of anything from 1995, when it came onto PCs about 7 8 years ago is when people started reporting fried cameras and computers.

    The main reason is I have a sound card on FireWire which is dodgy, and obviously they are in a chain. Keeping it simple when things are dodgy is recommended.

    The other reason is that network drives are really very integrated and if I buy a network enclosure I can use it with and away from the computer so it's like buying a FireWire and another box. Besides isn't lan at least as fast as FireWire?

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    god no. Most ethernet-connected drives are limited to 100mbit.

    a firewire or usb2 drive should be several times that speed.

    There are probably gigabit-connected nas boxes, but the chances are your laptop doesn't have gbit, so you'll need to get a pcmcia gbit card, which adds more cost onto the already comparatively expensive ethernet external drive route.

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