Build Help (Overclocking)

[ikix]

Im hopefully going to be building a new gaming rig which i want to overclock near the end of this month

So far i have the following (not much tbh ):

CPU: E6570 - £130 inc. VAT
RAM: Need some advice
GPU: Need Some advice
MOBO: Need some severe advice
PSU: Corsair 520W HX V2 Series - £65 inc. VAT
COOLING: Need some advice
HDD 1: Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 320GB, SATA 200MBps, 16MB Cache - Already own
HDD 2: WD 7200RPM 160GB, SATA 150MBps, 16MB Cache - Already own
HDD 3: Seagate 7200RPM 80GB, IDE - Already own
SOUND: Creative X-Fi Extreme Audio Sound Card 24Bit 7.1 - £28 inc. VAT
CD/DVD: Samsung SH-S183L, SATA 150MBps - £18 inc. VAT
CASE: Need some advice (Prefer screwless HDD casing etc.)

1. Since i'm new to overclocking and this will be my first build where i do some (hopefully not blowing anything ) my main issues are the Mother Board and the RAM choices.
2. With the GPU im a little confused as i don't think i have enough to spend on the GTX but the smaller memory of the 8800GTS 320MB is a bit worrying for me with future games. I have a 17" screen with a resolution of 1280x1024
3. The E6750 seems to be a good OC choice but im not sure whether a Q6600 would be a better use of my money
4. My budget is around £700-£800
5. With the CD/DVD drive being OEM there will be no cables right?
6. Will the PSU have enough cables etc. to accomodate everything (and the correct ones )

Thankyou all

[Clunk]

320MB 8800GTS is more than adequate for your screen.

Wait and see how much everything is on monday as far as CPUs are concerned. The quads are a lot of processor for the money, but you need good cooling for overclocking them. Also, consider if you have any software that awill make use of a quad.

For the motherboard, the P5K deluxe is a good choice, especially if you do go quad.

For the cooling, again, depends what CPU you go for, and how much you want to overclock. The thermalright ultra is highly regarded, but not cheap, and you need a fan with a decent CFM to get the best from it.

[SuicidaL]

just wondering what the difference is between the 6600 and 6750? is it just the fsb being 1333 rather than 1066, slightly faster clock and its a tenner cheaper for the 6750 and being newer.

seems a bit odd to have a newer chip cheaper than an existing one ie. the 6750 is cheaper than a 6600 and the 6850 is cheaper than 6700

[BUFF]

you are losing multis though e.g. if you compare the CPUs with the same multi
E6600 9x multi £138
E6850 9x £169

[SuicidaL]

so better off really with a 6600 then? unless going for a Q?

[Clunk]

What he means is, that you are better off with a CPU with a higher multiplier, so when you overclock, the FSB isnt as high.

[ikix]

320MB 8800GTS is more than adequate for your screen.

Wait and see how much everything is on monday as far as CPUs are concerned. The quads are a lot of processor for the money, but you need good cooling for overclocking them. Also, consider if you have any software that awill make use of a quad.

For the motherboard, the P5K deluxe is a good choice, especially if you do go quad.

For the cooling, again, depends what CPU you go for, and how much you want to overclock. The thermalright ultra is highly regarded, but not cheap, and you need a fan with a decent CFM to get the best from it.

Cheers, what is "CFM"

Also what are the multis for the cheap top-end Intel CPUs (i.e. Q6600, E6600 and E6750, not jsut those ofcourse just no extreme versions - no cash )

[Clunk]

Cubic Feet per Minute.

The extreme processors have unlocked multis, whereas the non-extreme processors have upward locked miltis, meaning that the multi can only be adjusted downwards.

[rob4001]

Why bother with a E6600 or E6850 if an overclocked E4300 is much cheaper and also has a x9 multiplier . People keep saying its all about the GPU these days so why not spend the extra cash on a GTX than a GTS?

[BUFF]

if you're going to argue that way how about going down to an E2140 or so ...?

E6xxx has more cache & virtualisation tech (though how much use that will ever be?) plus I suspect that there have been more 4.0GHz E6xxx than E4xxxx.

[rob4001]

I agree but, if the bottle neck is going to be your GPU then it doesn't matter how high you clock cpu or am I wrong.

[ikix]

The Problem is that the drop in price for the cheaper CPU is no where near the dramatic increase in price for a GTX compared to a GTS, i did look at a build with a GTX and it turned out to be way too much or i was sacraficing on other important things.

I'm not quite sure they are but i think the multi on the E6750 is x8 so on PC6400 the highest 1:1 overclock would be 3.2GHz. I this correct? and if so would it be advisible to upgrade to PC7200 or is 3.2GHz enough

[BUFF]

I'm not quite sure they are but i think the multi on the E6750 is x8 so on PC6400 the highest 1:1 overclock would be 3.2GHz. I this correct? and if so would it be advisible to upgrade to PC7200 or is 3.2GHz enough

The E6750 does indeed have an 8x multi but so does the £16 cheaper E6420 - other than the different default fsb they are identical.
& yes assuming that your RAM couldn't overclock even 1 extra fsb your max at 1:1 would be 3.2GHz.