Crysis PC

[aidanjt]

You're talking about using vendor specific extensions in DX/OGL, of course one card is going to be favoured if you use them, and there's lots of games that had an ATi bias where nVidia cards still out perform ATi. Vendor specific extensions are retarded and shouldn't be used, it defeats the purpose of using API abstraction. If you want a more advanced API, then use an advanced API (like DX10 or OpenGL 2.0). If you absolutely *need* vendor specific extensions then optimise for both.

That's faulty logic, it's like blaming x86 for not running PPC code properly, and I certainly wont make my purchasing decissions based solely on one software product that's not even released yet. Maybe if it was some super-efficient, compatible, and stable Operating System that requires a particular CPU, then I'd do that.

[GSte]

Everything shows that ATi's cards suck as much now as they did in November, and their drivers will always be a puddle of piss on anything other than Windows.

[DanceswithUnix]

... and their drivers will always be a puddle of piss on anything other than Windows.

LOL, you do realise I actually want to get a cheap ATI card now just to experience how bad these drivers are

[aidanjt]

LOL, you do realise I actually want to get a cheap ATI card now just to experience how bad these drivers are

If you get a really old 9200 or something the opensource drivers developed by the X.org lot, it's quite good. But ATi's official drivers, fglrx, that will give you murderous impulses, especially if you go flicking between kernels and ttyls.

[DanceswithUnix]

Another vote here for "upgrade your PSU and graphics card".

At some point the quad core AMD chip should come out, and you can upgrade your BIOS and plug one in. Right now the quad core AMD may be clocking vary badly, but then we have been here before. The first step of the Athlon XP was a sluggish blast furnace, the next stepping a few months later was a charm. Shame I ended up with one of the first ones

[Andy3536]

its also easy to pick the most expensive stuff and claim its the best. Why pay £500 for an extra Ultra when drivers are rubbish for SLI do you think a second card is worth the extra it will give at this price?

Ha, no i wouldn't personally think it would be worth it, But he said £2500
I just wanted to spend every penny of his money
Seriously though it wasn't intended as a serious sugestion, Personaly i would go for a gtx and leave it at that.
There'll be no piont getting the new nvidia cards when they first come out as they'll probobly have some issues that'll need sorting.

[GSte]

There'll be no piont getting the new nvidia cards when they first come out as they'll probobly have some issues that'll need sorting.

Could be a long wait til they get em sorted though.... I'm still waiting.....

[The Hand]

I read somewhere recently, that Crysis won't be out until spring 2008 now? If so, its probably best to hold back on upgrading right now..
Reminds me of Doom3 originally coming out in Nov 2003 only to slip to Aug 2004... oh and HL2 aswell

[Andy3536]

Could be a long wait til they get em sorted though.... I'm still waiting.....

Wouldn't it be annoying if they got the new drivers sorted before the old ones

[Agent]

Now I'm not saying nvidia card will not run it, just that if a developer has a working relation ship with ATi then you'll tend to get better performance out of ATi cards than on games where the developers have a working relation ship with Nvidia.

What usually happens is that Nvidia / Ati give the company a bit of hardware, some cash for advertising, and that's it.
Half like 2 proved this perfectly.

The PC market is already very small compared to consoles. By optimising the engine / game for one type of card, they are cutting out a huge section of their already small market.
Besides, there is no point optimising a game / engine too heavily for a generation of card. We are getting through entire new series in around a year now. Once you take into account how many people will have a top end card anyway, and that each generation that comes out usual come with huge code-base changes (why do you think they have to recode drivers with new generations), its just wasted time.

Even when this has been the case, its usually purely because the company has given information to Ati / NV on what improvements could be made at the driver level to make it run quicker (Doom 3 anyone?)

[acrobat]

I read quite a lot about Crysis, and the last thing I read, is that there is a possibility it may roll over into 2008.

Either way, there are other big games due before them which are taking my full attention. Things like UT2007, Bioshock, and a few others. If you don't care about those then nevermind, but if you do, you could always upgrade now. As someone above said, an 8800GTX ultra, and then a quad core, and you can't go wrong. Although if you can wait, then wait until the last minute. Because by the time its actually released (aaages...), everything will be much cheaper, and there will be faster and better stuff too.

[GSte]

Apparently Ubisoft have split with the developers of far cry (who are now making crysis), and are themselves making far cry 2.... bit bizarre, but will be interesting to see the results.

[azrael1]

Sad that crysis is delayed to november. sobbs

[Blitzen]

Yes true, but it would take a hell of a lot to beat 2 ultras in sli with quad core.
Wont be out of date for years and will run any game seamlessly.
If you worried about PC stuff being out of date soon after you buy it no one would ever buy anything.

Probably months rather than years tbh

Just have to say,

Will be best off with ATi not Nvidia

(as of 1 month ago)
More I cannot say

Apart from, it's looking great, some really lovely things they are doing with it.


EDIT: NDA before anyone asks

Believe it when i see it. Heard it all before and look what happened.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Sad that crysis is delayed to november. sobbs

At least by then DECENT DX10 cards would have dropped in price!!

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Probably months rather than years tbh



Believe it when i see it. Heard it all before and look what happened.

Alot of the Crysis game demos seem to have been run on Intel quad cores and Nvidia 8800GTX cards!! Why would Crytek then favour ATI??