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    Re: Please Help Before I Take A Hammer To My New Rig!

    Looks like I spoke too soon, I got the problem where the machine hangs during the memory test again this morning, with my new power supply connected...This time it froze on 'MEMORY TE'

    So I guess I still need to work on those timings.

    Kingstons website list the memory spec as 4-4-4-12 @ 2.0v

    CPU-Z shows my current timings as 5-5-5-16 but I don't know my current voltage. I have overvolted it by 0.1 in the BIOS but not sure if this is enough

    I was able to bring the timings down although this also reduced the frequency of the RAM. I need to raise the FSB but when I tried this yesterday the machine wouldn't even boot! I don;t really know what I'm doing when it comes to OCing but if anyone can help I would be much appreciative

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    Re: Please Help Before I Take A Hammer To My New Rig!

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    Seriously, if you value your components, dont use that PSU. If that is indeed the cause of your problems and it does decide to blow, it could potentially take the rest of your stuff with it.

    Not worth it. Wait till your Antec arrives.

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    Re: Please Help Before I Take A Hammer To My New Rig!

    I wouldn't try overclocking just yet. You have an issue which looks to be ram related. Can you run memtest and report back with the results? Faulty ram is a pain to diagnose, it's a real hair puller. Do you have a friend who has some sticks that you know to work?. Boot with just one stick and run memtest. If it fails it's most like that stick. Repeat with the other. If it's not then your mobo is having issues so try the ram in different slots.

    Getting the PC to be stable at stock everything is the first step of overclocking.

    Puts on South Park chef's voice. Overclockin' your PC is like makin' sweet love to a beautiful woman oh yeah. At the start you gotta be reeeal slow and gentle, children. Only when the PC is in the mood can you go faster.

    Without doing this you'll never know if it's the overclock that is crashing the PC or your hardware and you will end up in an awful mess and have to go back to square one.
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    Re: Please Help Before I Take A Hammer To My New Rig!

    @blitzen: im using the new antec now, not the cak generic £10 job that I was using when I first put this new machine together, antec are ok right?

    @iranu: I will run memtest on each stick and provide the results, will probably be tomorrow now or later tonight....

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    Re: Please Help Before I Take A Hammer To My New Rig!

    Ok, set memtest to run on both sticks before I went to bed last night...When I got up and checked the machine, it had crashed after just 4 minutes. The cursor was still flashing but the test was not progressing at all and it had been like this for a good 6 hours. here is a screener:



    Now I'm gonna run it on each stick individually for a few hours....will post some more screen shots later...I guess memtest crashing after 4 minutes is a pretty bad sign

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    Re: Please Help Before I Take A Hammer To My New Rig!

    If one stick passes and the other doesn't see if putting the "bad" stick in another slot works - it may be the mobo not the RAM that's at fault.

    If neither work then it's probably a mobo problem, although I had one duff mobo that also borked the RAM.

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    Re: Please Help Before I Take A Hammer To My New Rig!

    Ok, more results:

    on the second test, I had the first stick of RAM in slot 0 and the test ran for 4 minutes 44 seconds. 0 errors detected but test crashed

    on the third test I had the second stick of RAM in slot 0 and the test ran for 9 minutes 53 seconds. 0 errors detected but test crashed

    on the fourth test I had the second slot of RAM in slot 1 and the test ran for 6 minutes 48 seconds. 0 errors detected but test crashed

    So memtest is crashing after less than 10 minutes for either stick of RAM in slot 0 or 1. what does this mean? I really hope its not the mobo, this was the only new product that I didnt get from ebuyer, I got it from ebay (although it was brandnew and sealed) so i will probably have a hard time exchanging it...

    I don't get why everything works fine after messing about with the RAM when I first switch it on. If I get the 'MEMORY TE' error when I switch the machine on, I just remove both sticks of RAM and try to boot, fail obviously and switch the machine off. Put both sticks of RAM back in again and then it boots fine into windows. I don't get any bluescreen errors, nothing, it is all fine until I reboot and then the problem happens again. You'd think if there was a problem with the mobo it just wouldn't work, or it would blue screen frequently or something.

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    Re: Please Help Before I Take A Hammer To My New Rig!

    It sounds like you havent set the RAM voltage manually.
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    Re: Please Help Before I Take A Hammer To My New Rig!

    Why not take a picture of your screen where the BIOS RAM settings are so we can see what they are?

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    Re: Please Help Before I Take A Hammer To My New Rig!

    ok, here is a shot of the 'inteligent tweaker' section of the BIOS:



    I have flashed to the latest (F11) BIOS and this is the only screen where I can adjust voltages and such. As you can see I've have already raised the RAM voltage by 0.1v and this was the seting during each of the memtests I ran.

    I'm not sure that everest does show the current RAM voltage, I think it shows the different profiles in the SPD. So even though I raised the RAM, I guess it might not be by enough to prevent the problem... If the default voltage is set to 1.8v then 0.1v wouldn't be enough to get the RAM to 2v which someone advised earlier...

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    Re: Please Help Before I Take A Hammer To My New Rig!

    You're right about Everest. I can't see anywhere that it tracks DDR voltage. The only utility I can recall doing that was Ntune.

    Up the increase to 0.2, but TBH I can't see 0.1 making that big a difference in stability. How long ago did you buy it on EBay?

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    Re: Please Help Before I Take A Hammer To My New Rig!

    It appears that the default voltage for DDR2 is 1.8v and this the the base value for the DQ6 board.

    +0.2V should match your RAM and hopefully should do the trick.

    If that doesn't work a little overvolted at +0.3V might do the trick.

    Failing that I'd set the timings to manual and adjust the first four timing to match the spec on your RAM leaving all the other adjustments on Auto.

    The amount of RAM adjustments availble reminds me of the DFI Lan party boards and they were notoriously fussy about the RAM sticks used. I don't know much about RAM compatability on the DQ6 but I'd try test a stick of Crucial or Corsair before deciding your board is at fault.

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    Re: Please Help Before I Take A Hammer To My New Rig!

    @Thorsson: I got it about 2 weeks ago now, my first post in this thread was a day or two after it first arrived

    @ed^chigliak: I'll try the higher settings and monitor it, the problem occurs almost every time I switch the machine on now so it should be clear pretty soon whether it has worked. I really hope it's not the board....

    About those timings, I changed them a few days ago by messing about with the CPU host frequency, but is this the only way to do it? can you see from the screenshot above how to do it without affecting the CPU?

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    Re: Please Help Before I Take A Hammer To My New Rig!

    I was just reading this to get a feel for what bios setting you have on the DQ6. It's seems quite comprehensive on how to access all the bios features.

    http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha..._p35dq6/5.html

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    Re: Please Help Before I Take A Hammer To My New Rig!

    totally excellent, thanks ed^chigliak

    Preliminary findings after increasing the ram voltage by another 0.1v seem good; i've restarted the machine twice and also done a full shutdown and power back on and the machine hasn't hung once...should I go ahead and lower the timings (they are currently 5-5-5-16)?

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