Re: Dell- "you need Dual core to use the internet and play mp3s at the same time!"
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Originally Posted by
staffsMike
I've got a friend who swears blind his p4 2.8ghz is better than an E6600 @ stock settings.. oh yeah they exist..and they out number us!! lol
*sigh* clock speed is all they have to go by then?
Re: Dell- "you need Dual core to use the internet and play mp3s at the same time!"
Yes.. i've tried to explain but ignorance seems to be accompanied by stubborness
Re: Dell- "you need Dual core to use the internet and play mp3s at the same time!"
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Originally Posted by
peterb
Why do you think the larger xcompanies say "xxx recommends Windows xxx"? Because MS pay them a premium to do it (or give them better discounts on the OEM licences) Of couse Jore public sees that and thinks "If xx recommends it, it must be good"!
same way they recomend more RAM. They have a percentage markup on most things.
Ie, sell £1500 of gear, more profit than £1000
as such, anything thats expensive will be recomended.
This is why PC World where selling a quad core, for only £650. The rest of the spec was awful, very little and very poor memory, but sounds a lot better than the dual core. Fact is the dual core would of been better for practically anything other than Pi95. Games, video authoring etc. better on the dual core.
Re: Dell- "you need Dual core to use the internet and play mp3s at the same time!"
I'm listening to music whilst typing this and I'm pretty sure my overclocked Opteron 146 is going to implode under the strain :)
Re: Dell- "you need Dual core to use the internet and play mp3s at the same time!"
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scrandman
I'm listening to music whilst typing this and I'm pretty sure my overclocked Opteron 146 is going to implode under the strain :)
god for tasks like that we're talking quad core or more
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Re: Dell- "you need Dual core to use the internet and play mp3s at the same time!"
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Clunk
Damn, you know I got that cutlery set as a wedding present...
Re: Dell- "you need Dual core to use the internet and play mp3s at the same time!"
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Thorsson
Damn, you know I got that cutlery set as a wedding present...
haha :)
Re: Dell- "you need Dual core to use the internet and play mp3s at the same time!"
Yes the marketing is all bull****. But Dell and the like aren't in business to help you understand computers. They're there to sell you one preferably with the extra warranty and a tragically expensive USB cables for the printer they talked you in to buying as well as it's only £30 (don't mention it'll cost £50 for new ink) and in a couple of years give it a 'health check' for £50.
PC World were running adverts on TV a while back talking talking about how you could use a dual core processor to listen to music and scan for viruses at the same time. Maybe not have been listen to music but one of the activities was certainly scan for viruses. (As a primarily Linux and Mac user this stuck in my mind.) A recent advert of theirs I saw goes like this
sales guy: intel core 2 duo blah blah
customer: wow!
sales guy: and it's a toshiba
customer: i'll take one!
Also you have to remember is that the vast majority of the customer base for companies like Dell and PC World know almost nothing about the technical aspects of computers and are not interested in knowing. You or I may be able to recite the brand and spec of every component in our PC from memory but most people don't even know what the bits are called and nor do they care. They'll refer to the entire computer as 'the harddrive' and when they talk about their computer 'running out of memory' what they are actually talking about is harddisk space. There's a guy where I work keeps talking about he doesn't know what laptop he's going to buy but that 'I know I need a 2 gig one'. 2 gig ram? 2ghz cpu? I doubt he really knows what he means by 'a 2 gig one' and I've deliberately not asked. If you try actually explaining the technical merits of a given system to most people they have no idea what you are talking about. Hence the marketing bull**** spiel.
Many of the look at some websites and write a letter near computer illieterate types probably would be fine with an Athlon XP based system or the like, but what source that they would feel comfortable buying from is going to sell? Or even sell them one at a price that makes sense compared to the cost of a new machine? I saw a brand new laptop for £300 in Tesco the other day. Now it was far from a gaming machine, it even said on the box that it was for email and word processing. But it had 60Gb harddisk, 512mb ram and wireless and was at the end of the day an entire brand new working laptop for £300. £400 laptops are not uncommon.
Re: Dell- "you need Dual core to use the internet and play mp3s at the same time!"
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Originally Posted by
arizonagroove
A recent advert of theirs I saw goes like this
sales guy: intel core 2 duo blah blah
customer: wow!
sales guy: and it's a toshiba
customer: i'll take one!
hahaha I noticed that advert too. Its funny. Although it also makes me want to put my foot through the screen.
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I like the one with the vaio.
Customer: "ooo i can't afford a sony"
sales: "but it's only £500" ....*and little do you know its 3 friggin years old..muhaha MUHAHAHA!!*
Re: Dell- "you need Dual core to use the internet and play mp3s at the same time!"
Yeah :(
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arizonagroove
They'll refer to the entire computer as 'the harddrive' and when they talk about their computer 'running out of memory' what they are actually talking about is harddisk space.
Yup. These companies must rub their hands with glee when people like that walk in. Its sad. Business hasn't always been like that. There have always been the odd dodgy dealers, but it never used to be "the norm" like it is today. Its not even little white lies/exaggerations anymore too. I can live with things like, "And you might want to take this printer for £50 too, oh and this 1 years insurance is £200". But I can't stomach all the blatent lying now. And the junk they sell... ewww.
"Ahhh, you listen to music AND surf the internet? You'll need a quad core, with 2gig of RAM, a 20000mb broadband connection". And, "You want a computer eh? We have a new one here that is great value. It has an 2 GIGA HERTZ INTEL *cough* celeron *cough* processor, with half a GIG of RAM, and a massive 80 gig hard drive, for just £499" etc.. We will even throw in this PC world mouse mat!
My god!! I'll take it!!!!!!
Re: Dell- "you need Dual core to use the internet and play mp3s at the same time!"
intel made it worse by rebranding celeron as pentium...
Suckers gonna be SO confused now lol
Re: Dell- "you need Dual core to use the internet and play mp3s at the same time!"
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staffsMike
I was waiting for you to do that.. you don't disappoint me haha
It's true, you're a legend, Clunk.
:)
Re: Dell- "you need Dual core to use the internet and play mp3s at the same time!"
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Originally Posted by
staffsMike
I like the one with the vaio.
Customer: "ooo i can't afford a sony"
sales: "but it's only £500" ....*and little do you know its 3 friggin years old..muhaha MUHAHAHA!!*
That totally had me in tears man.... classic! xD
Re: Dell- "you need Dual core to use the internet and play mp3s at the same time!"
Dell have had numerous cases of misleading ads, some of them were even banned by the ASA :rolleyes:
