Cases with removeable motherboard tray or Butterfly?

[Pob255]

This is my 2nd thread for my friends new build.
Now he's not built a pc before so I'm thinking of a case that's very easy to get at to make it as easy as possible.

I was looking at the Antec 900 but almost every ware is out of stock atm and that got me thinking.

So I'm looking for cases with removeable mother board trays (on the grounds that it's eaiser to mount the motherboard and cards out of a case then slot it in.
120mm fan mount at the rear and general good air flow
Under/around £70
Catch style door pannels might be good as well

I was looking at the Recom Powerstation, which is a butterfly style case, I've seen it in the flesh at yoyotech and I know it's very easy to get into.
[ Hardware.Info ] - Recom PowerStation [RC-PWS-BKW]
However it's not that nice a case, it only has a 92mm rear fan and the door covers the front USB when it's closed.

So sugestions people?

[staffsMike]

the akasa eclipse 62 does but it's out of that budget by £10 - £20

Antec Nine Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case
in stock there

here to
YOYOtech

EDIT: the eclipse is actually only £78 on scans today only. I'd snap one up at that price its a fantastic case

[BUFF]

doesn't have removable tray but the Coolermaster 690 (£50) looks like an easy case to work with.

[Pob255]

Looked at a few reviews
The coolermaster 690 looks great, except for:
1- Bad harddrive mounting, yes they absorb the vibrations but you have to take the rigth pannel off to pulg them in which makes the sidewaise mounting for easy access a bit pointless.
Also you cannot use IDE drives in them which reduces felxability.
Wonder if I could get hold of some normal drive rails and if they'd work?

2- Stiff side pannels, that's going to be a biggy as I know my friend will have problems with it.

If this was for me I'd get it and mod my way around the problems, if I hadn't of custom modded the server case I use I would buy this.

EDIT why is it that cheap low quality cases like this can have door handel attachment systems but not half decent makes?

[BUFF]

The coolermaster 690 looks great, except for:
1- Bad harddrive mounting, yes they absorb the vibrations but you have to take the rigth pannel off to pulg them in which makes the sidewaise mounting for easy access a bit pointless.
Also you cannot use IDE drives in them which reduces felxability.

When doing an install i always have both panels off anyway so that I can neaten my cabling.
Wouldn't be a biggie for me.
If it's a new build why would you be using PATA HDDs rather than SATA?

[Pob255]

Well why waste a functioning Hard drive? yes a samsung spinpoint SATA 250gb and 80Gb Seagate Barracuda SATA (might drop the barracuda) will be going, having the IDE in there for back up/storage, if the SATA disk dies then you still have the 2nd disk.
Personal experience is that Hard drives are one of thoes things that can die (I've found overheating is often the cause and is fatal)
Ram dies, it's annoying but not too great a fuss
Motherboard dies, bigger headache but livable if still under warranty
Hard driver dies, major headache trying to recover lost data.

EDIT: I also agree about both off for the inital install, but after that?
Again, it's not for me, if it was I'd have no qualms about juryrigging something or takeing sharp bladed objects to the trays to make them work the way I want them too.

[DougMcDonald]

Lian-Li PC7, in budget, really good look and build quality, decent airflow unless you want really really serious o'clocking

[arthurleung]

Well why waste a functioning Hard drive? yes a samsung spinpoint SATA 250gb and 80Gb Seagate Barracuda SATA (might drop the barracuda) will be going, having the IDE in there for back up/storage, if the SATA disk dies then you still have the 2nd disk.
Personal experience is that Hard drives are one of thoes things that can die (I've found overheating is often the cause and is fatal)
Ram dies, it's annoying but not too great a fuss
Motherboard dies, bigger headache but livable if still under warranty
Hard driver dies, major headache trying to recover lost data.

EDIT: I also agree about both off for the inital install, but after that?
Again, it's not for me, if it was I'd have no qualms about juryrigging something or takeing sharp bladed objects to the trays to make them work the way I want them too.

You can always get a USB-IDE external box. Your IDE drives are probably so old that they will be quite loud in your new system.

If you can stretch the budget a bit, the Akasa Eclipse 62 is great for installation with almost every single panel/tray removable. Once you bought it you will never find a case as easy to install. Only disadvantage is that the side panels are too thin and will resonate with vibrations from multiple harddrives.

Combine both idea, some motherboards provide a eSATA backplate which you can put in the FRONT of the Eclipse and you can use a small IDE->SATA adapter so you could hot plug the hdd into the system SATA, saving the cost of a full enclosure. Those converters are damn cheap on ebay.