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    New pc... Decisions decisions...

    Hi all,
    i am currently looking into buying a new pc for gaming on...
    my budget at the moment is £575 including vat. (may be able to go £600)
    at the moment i have a rough idea of what i would like as the spec.
    the graphics card i definately want a 512mb geforce 8800gt... but if it push coems to shove maybe something cheaper.
    processor an core2 duo e6750
    arctic cooling freezer 7 pro
    i am basically unsure about the rest of the kit...
    would be very greatfull if someone could post up prices and items along with details about it as i am very eager to play games.
    Also, if the shop the items will be from can build the pc for me as i have never built one befor eand dont want to attempt at it please let me know.
    Thanks and look forward to reading your replys

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    Re: New pc... Decisions decisions...

    This what you cna get for around 600 quid from Ebuyer if you use their Supersaver postage option:


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    Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3 iP35 Socket 775 8 channel audio ATX Motherboard 136363 24 in stock £56.82 £56.82

    Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz 1333FSB Socket 775 4MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor 130484 157 in stock £98.48 £98.48

    MSI 8800GT 512MB GDDR3 Dual DVI PCI-E Graphics Card 134966 10 in stock £153.18 £153.18

    Corsair 2GB Kit (2x1GB) DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 XMS2 Memory Non-ECC Unbuffered CL5(5-5-5-12) Heat Spreader Lifetime Warranty 098710 30 in stock £29.77 £29.77

    Samsung SpinPoint HD501LJ 500GB SATAII Hard Drive 16MB Cache - OEM 130454 79 in stock £51.00 £51.00


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    I assume you do not want to overclock and do not have a copy of XP to hand?? If you wish to play in DX10 you can substitute the XP copy for a Vista Home Basic copy for around the same price.

    BTW if you do not want to overclock the supplied cooler with cpu will be fine.

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    Re: New pc... Decisions decisions...

    LN19275 Intel Core 2 Duo E6750, S775, 2.66 GHz, 1333MHz FSB, Conroe Core, 4MB Cache, Retail £115.02
    LN20792 256MB XFX 8800GT PCI-E (x16), 1400 MHz, GDDR3, GPU 600 MHz, 2 x Dual Link DVI-I HDTV **Exclusive **£117.36
    LN18913 Abit IP-35, iP35 Express, S 775, PCI-E (x16), DDR2 533/667/800, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX£75.78
    LN18577 2GB (2x1GB) Corsair TwinX XMS2 DHX, DDR2 PC2-6400 (800), 240 Pins, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 5 £37.18
    LN16546 500 GB Samsung HD501LJ Spinpoint T166, SATA II, 7200 rpm, 16MB Cache, 8.9 ms, NCQ £59.80
    LN19437 LiteON DH-20A1S-18C Black 20x DVD±R, 8x DVD±DL, DVD+RW x8 / -RW x 6, DVD-RAM x12, SATA Black £16.92
    LN9072 CoolerMaster Centurion 5 Silver Case Black Body (Silver Trimmings) w/o PSU £35.00
    LN14000 580W HiperPower HPU-4M580 Black SLi Ready 20+24Pins P8 Ready ATX2.2/BTX £44.52

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    A review on the 256mb 8800GT

    Expreview.com - Extra Hardware News Report! » Blog Archive » [First review]Galaxy GeForce 8800GT 256MB

    What resolution is your monitor?

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    Re: New pc... Decisions decisions...

    If you replace the 8800GT with the following:

    Gecube HD 3850 Pro 512MB GDDR3 Overclocked Edition Dual DVI PCI-E Graphics Card - Ebuyer


    you will drop the price down to £548.06.

    This cards has got a good review:

    GeCube Radeon HD 3850 X-Turbo III 512 MB - techPowerUp! Forums

    However it is 5% to 25% slower than the 8800GT 512mb but is nearly 50 quid cheaper. This makes it around a third less in cost.
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    Re: New pc... Decisions decisions...

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmage View Post
    LN19275 Intel Core 2 Duo E6750, S775, 2.66 GHz, 1333MHz FSB, Conroe Core, 4MB Cache, Retail £115.02
    LN20792 256MB XFX 8800GT PCI-E (x16), 1400 MHz, GDDR3, GPU 600 MHz, 2 x Dual Link DVI-I HDTV **Exclusive **£117.36
    LN18913 Abit IP-35, iP35 Express, S 775, PCI-E (x16), DDR2 533/667/800, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX£75.78
    LN18577 2GB (2x1GB) Corsair TwinX XMS2 DHX, DDR2 PC2-6400 (800), 240 Pins, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 5 £37.18
    LN16546 500 GB Samsung HD501LJ Spinpoint T166, SATA II, 7200 rpm, 16MB Cache, 8.9 ms, NCQ £59.80
    LN19437 LiteON DH-20A1S-18C Black 20x DVD±R, 8x DVD±DL, DVD+RW x8 / -RW x 6, DVD-RAM x12, SATA Black £16.92
    LN9072 CoolerMaster Centurion 5 Silver Case Black Body (Silver Trimmings) w/o PSU £35.00
    LN14000 580W HiperPower HPU-4M580 Black SLi Ready 20+24Pins P8 Ready ATX2.2/BTX £44.52

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    What resolution is your monitor?
    Does he have a copy of an OS to hand?? You have to assume this in the build.

    Another review from Anandtech of the 256MB 8800GT is not so favourable:

    AnandTech: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512 & GeForce 8800 GT 256MB: Playing with Memory and G92

    I would get the 512MB version personally unless you want to game at 1280x800 and below. The loss of 256mb really cripples the 8800GT according to the reviews.

    The HD3850 I recommemnded is also a overclocked 512mb version as opposed to the standard clocked 256mb version used in the second review!! It is almost as fast as the HD3870.
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    Re: New pc... Decisions decisions...

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Does he have a copy of an OS to hand?? You have to assume this in the build.
    Yep, i have to assume as for the budget it going really tight that 512mb 8800gt can go right out the window, and mate i think you forgot your psu.

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    Re: New pc... Decisions decisions...

    LN19275 Intel Core 2 Duo E6750, S775, 2.66 GHz, 1333MHz FSB, Conroe Core, 4MB Cache, Retail £115.02
    LN20418512MB Gigabyte 8800GT PCI-E 2.0 (x16), 1800 MHz, GDDR3, GPU 600 MHz, 2 x Dual Link DVI-I, Fan £176.11
    LN18913 Abit IP-35, iP35 Express, S 775, PCI-E (x16), DDR2 533/667/800, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX£75.78
    LN18577 2GB (2x1GB) Corsair TwinX XMS2 DHX, DDR2 PC2-6400 (800), 240 Pins, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 5 £37.18
    LN16546 500 GB Samsung HD501LJ Spinpoint T166, SATA II, 7200 rpm, 16MB Cache, 8.9 ms, NCQ £59.80
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    Changed to consider the 512mb

    still no room for the Price of the OS

    Im going on the bases on whats best for the budget with my previous one you could squeeze in xp home

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    Re: New pc... Decisions decisions...

    do you have any components that can be used from your current pc? like hard drives or case/psu? i spent around £660 on that system in my specs, but i already had a windows xp disc an dvd-rw

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    Don't get a Hiper PSU. Hipers blowing seems as guaranteed as Bush ignoring global warming.

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    Re: New pc... Decisions decisions...

    thanks guys for the fast replies..
    i think that i have an copy of microsoft xp somewhere in my case
    i forgot to add that if the price was how it is it would have to have a screen added to it aswell.... thats why i mentioned would like to keep a 512mb geforce 8800gt
    as towards screen size... im not sure really probably a 19" monitor but maybe if the price is right a hd one would be good ???? im unsure about hd on computers tbh
    also add me on msn to speak more quickly about it. m1k4_hakk1nen@hotmail.co.uk
    thanks
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    Re: New pc... Decisions decisions...

    Quote Originally Posted by iknownothing View Post
    as towards screen size... im not sure really probably a 19" monitor but maybe if the price is right a hd one would be good ???? im unsure about hd on computers tbh
    Screen itself can be another couple of hundred quid unfortunately....

    Best bet, get a 256MB 8800GT and a 19" monitor that runs at 1280*768 and you won't miss the extra video ram, it's about the same cost as getting an 8800GT 512MB but at least it sticks within your budget.

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    Re: New pc... Decisions decisions...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucio View Post
    Screen itself can be another couple of hundred quid unfortunately....

    Best bet, get a 256MB 8800GT and a 19" monitor that runs at 1280*768 and you won't miss the extra video ram, it's about the same cost as getting an 8800GT 512MB but at least it sticks within your budget.
    yeah i have been scouting around for screens and after reading some reviews and lookign in a couple of past issues of custom pc magazine have decided on a samsung syncmaster 206bw (i think it is) unless anyone can recommend a 19" monitor that is cheaper and relatively the same quality

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    Re: New pc... Decisions decisions...

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmage View Post
    Yep, i have to assume as for the budget it going really tight that 512mb 8800gt can go right out the window, and mate i think you forgot your psu.
    The price included a VX450W actually but I was in a hurry and forgot to copy the description over!! My mistake!!

    Here is the spec with the HD3850 and the PSU:


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    Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3 iP35 Socket 775 8 channel audio ATX Motherboard 136363 24 in stock £56.82 £56.82

    Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz 1333FSB Socket 775 4MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor 130484 147 in stock £98.48 £98.48

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    Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic x32Bit OEM 1PK DVD 123059 67 in stock £43.51 £43.51

    Gecube HD 3850 Pro 512MB GDDR3 Overclocked Edition Dual DVI PCI-E Graphics Card 136216 32 in stock £106.37 £106.37

    Corsair 2GB Kit (2x1GB) DDR2 675MHz/PC2-5400 XMS Memory Non-ECC Unbuffered CL4(4-4-4-12) Heat Spreader Lifetime Warranty 098708 133 in stock £22.98 £22.98

    Cart Total: £459.61

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    If you want a 512MB 8800GT then add 50 quid. All specs comfortably under 600 quid with OS included.
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    Re: New pc... Decisions decisions...

    Look on Ebay as there are some brand new NEC 19" screens for around 100-120 quid.They are S-IPS ones and are excellent quality.

    You can get a Hannstar one for around 100 quid.

    Have you considered overclocking?? An E4500 will easily reach 3ghz.


    If you take this into account you can get the following instead for around 600quid too without and OS:

    Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3 iP35 Socket 775 8 channel audio ATX Motherboard 136363 24 in stock £56.82 £56.82

    Samsung SpinPoint HD501LJ 500GB SATAII Hard Drive 16MB Cache - OEM 130454 50 in stock £51.00 £51.00

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    Corsair 2GB Kit (2x1GB) DDR2 675MHz/PC2-5400 XMS Memory Non-ECC Unbuffered CL4(4-4-4-12) Heat Spreader Lifetime Warranty 098708 133 in stock £22.98 £22.98

    Hanspree CY199DP TFT Monitor 19" 700:1 250cd/m2 Silver/Black DVI 138535 446 in stock £86.80 £86.80

    Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 2.20GHz Socket 775 800FSB 2MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor 130486 329 in stock £63.77 £63.77

    Zotac 8800GT 512mb GDDR3 Dual DVI PCI-E Graphics Card £152.66 £152.66

    *FREE SHIPPING ON THIS ORDER» Shipping Charge:
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    Total: £604.55

    If you want a really nice screen you could look around for Phillips 200W6CS.You can pick them up for under 150 quid on Ebay. They are also S-IPS or P-MVA too!! Most sub 200 quid panels are TN types which IMHO are not as good.
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    Re: New pc... Decisions decisions...

    For a cooler I'd go with the Asaka ak-965x3 over the Arctic cooling freezer 7 pro
    Computer hardware and software at amazing prices, available online from Scan Computers UK
    At £11.74 it's cheaper and seems to be just as good (I say this as I've not found any review sites that have compaired the two directly)
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    ebuyer link Akasa AK 965 (Socket 775) Aluminium with Copper Base Processor Cooler - Ebuyer

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    Re: New pc... Decisions decisions...

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmage View Post
    LN19275 Intel Core 2 Duo E6750, S775, 2.66 GHz, 1333MHz FSB, Conroe Core, 4MB Cache, Retail £115.02
    LN20792 256MB XFX 8800GT PCI-E (x16), 1400 MHz, GDDR3, GPU 600 MHz, 2 x Dual Link DVI-I HDTV **Exclusive **£117.36
    LN18913 Abit IP-35, iP35 Express, S 775, PCI-E (x16), DDR2 533/667/800, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX£75.78
    LN18577 2GB (2x1GB) Corsair TwinX XMS2 DHX, DDR2 PC2-6400 (800), 240 Pins, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 5 £37.18
    LN16546 500 GB Samsung HD501LJ Spinpoint T166, SATA II, 7200 rpm, 16MB Cache, 8.9 ms, NCQ £59.80
    LN19437 LiteON DH-20A1S-18C Black 20x DVD±R, 8x DVD±DL, DVD+RW x8 / -RW x 6, DVD-RAM x12, SATA Black £16.92
    LN9072 CoolerMaster Centurion 5 Silver Case Black Body (Silver Trimmings) w/o PSU £35.00
    LN14000 580W HiperPower HPU-4M580 Black SLi Ready 20+24Pins P8 Ready ATX2.2/BTX £44.52

    £ 503.07 Free shipping

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    A review on the 256mb 8800GT

    Expreview.com - Extra Hardware News Report! » Blog Archive » [First review]Galaxy GeForce 8800GT 256MB

    What resolution is your monitor?
    Thats all decent.....the PSU i would definitely change out though.

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