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    Interesting hard drive issue

    Not a problem per se, more of an annoyance.

    I have two root folders on my D drive that both contain loads and loads of subfolders that go fairly deep, with thousands of files in (photos and music folders basically), each time I load Windows explorer to browse these folders, when I click on each folder the hard drive seeks for about 6-8 seconds before opening them. It won't do it every time I open the folders, I guess once it's got them out of the cache or whatever...

    Anyone know what might cause this? It doesn't do it to any of the other root folders on the drive, just those two. It's done it before this drive too; i.e when I had the folders on my old hard drive, and simply copied them across.

    I've tried defragging to no avail.


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    Re: Interesting hard drive issue

    6-8 seconds seems a tad long. Mine seeks for ~3 sec when I move my mouse over the folder so that it can obtain the size and number of files within that folder (including subfolders). It's like an automatic "Right click -> Properties" that may or may not go all the way to the end. Try and see how long that takes - if it is 6-8 seconds, then there's your answer; but you need to make sure that it didn't get cached first. In my case though, if it's not able to obtain the results by 3 seconds, it just gives up and say "Larger than ##GB", "..." files and "..." folders (yea, I have folders with so many subfolders it can't reach the end of it ). Anyway, I am guessing that is all your's doing.
    Last edited by TooNice; 27-08-2007 at 09:06 AM. Reason: Typo

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    Re: Interesting hard drive issue

    It takes 12 seconds to do one of the folders, with about 80gb of stuff in it It doesn't take that long to count it. I don't get it

    Don't have indexing service turned on either
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    Re: Interesting hard drive issue

    Anyone else got any input?
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    Re: Interesting hard drive issue

    i bet it IS defragged...but XP defrag is'nt all that good.

    If some of those files are dotted about several platters, and on different cylinders of those platters (like rings of a tree trunk, some near the centre, some near the outter edges) the HDD will have a mare finding them all

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    Re: Interesting hard drive issue

    I copied the folders over in one go when I bought my drive, so maybe theyr'e further away than everything else
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    Re: Interesting hard drive issue

    I have similar response time to Howard opening the root of folders with large numbers of folders/files inside.
    The time to open is very fast on folders with small numbers of files.
    As Howard does, I also have indexing turned off, wonder if its a 'feature' or what its actually doing in this time?

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    Re: Interesting hard drive issue

    Go to Tools -> Folder Options -> View.

    Untick "Show pop-up description description for folders and desktop items".

    Does that help? Personally, I doubt it's about fragmentation.

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    Re: Interesting hard drive issue

    Quote Originally Posted by TooNice View Post
    Go to Tools -> Folder Options -> View.

    Untick "Show pop-up description description for folders and desktop items".

    Does that help? Personally, I doubt it's about fragmentation.

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    Re: Interesting hard drive issue

    Quote Originally Posted by TooNice View Post
    Go to Tools -> Folder Options -> View.

    Untick "Show pop-up description description for folders and desktop items".

    Does that help? Personally, I doubt it's about fragmentation.
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    Re: Interesting hard drive issue

    Nice 1, just made my Pc that little bit quicker

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    Top man.

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    Re: Interesting hard drive issue

    It's still happening Any other ides from anyone?
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    Re: Interesting hard drive issue

    Did that solution fix things initially or not?

    If it did just set it again and hit "Apply to all Folders." If that didn't fix it then go with a proper defrag (I recommend PerfectDisk) or run chkdsk as sometimes very slow disk behavious in certain areas can result from bad sectors.

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    Re: Interesting hard drive issue

    If your defragger isn't consolidating the folders and there is a long chain of folders to get from root to each file then there is going to be a lot of head movement to traverse a deep tree of folders (folders within folders within folders).

    It is a good idea, whenever possible, to have shallow folder trees to frequently used files, otherwise make sure your defragger will put the folders all in one place.
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