Hello all,
i finally replaced my godaweful XFI card with the Auzentech Xplosion but i cant seem to get the surround sound in games to work via optical. Does anyone have any experience with this or a similar card who an help me get it set up properly?
Last edited by Biscuit; 20-01-2008 at 02:30 PM.
Is it just in games?
Are you on XP or Vsta? In XP make sure you set Dolby Digital live or DTS connect in Xear3D. The game will need to be set with the correct options, as well as your receiver. You might be best off turning off some EAX effects you used with your X-Fi as C-media cards don't always function correctly (eg Battlefield 2).
For Vista you're scuppered until Auzentech / C-media release a directsound3d wrapper. Auzentech haven't promised they'll release one but keep a look out for the Club3D Theatron Agrippa drivers. It's a rebadged X-plosion so the drivers should work and Club3d have promised Directsound3d support in Vista for Q1 2008 - Club 3D Zap-Tv section
im on vista and its in games and in op sys. So there is a chance im STILL not gunna be able to have surround sound?!
Have you tried configuring you speakers in control panel, that worked for me with my xplosion in vista. I have since moved back to xp and everything is in Dolby digital live regardless of the files.
Afraid so. Microsoft changed the way that windows handles surround sound in games for vista. They got rid of Directsound3D in order to make the operating system more stable. Games that used OpenAL are unaffected (anything Doom 3 engine based, Bioshock and a few others) but anything that used Directsound in XP won't work. WoW and STALKER have been patched for Vista.
Soundcards that do work with Directsound3D games in Vista include: Creative X-Fi (except Xtreme Audio) with free ALChemy wrapper from creative, Creative Audigy series with $9.99 ALChemy, Asus Xonar DX, Club3D Theatron DTS (not DD or agrippa).
I'm pretty sure that when Club3d release the drivers for their Theatron Agrippa card they'll give you surround sound in Vista. I'll be very surprised if Auzentech don't sort it out themselves eventually.
The Asus Xonar DX and Auxentech X-fi Prelude are currently the only cards to do surround sound in most games for Vista and send out a DD or DTS signal over optical.
Last edited by Uriel; 20-01-2008 at 07:39 PM.
Biscuit (21-01-2008)
Well iv fiddled with the settings in the sound part of CP and i have fiddled witht he c-media bit but cant get anything in COD4 or genral windows sounds. im so p****d off right now! I really like some of the features in vista but things like this keep knocking it back. Do you think it is worth sticking it out and hoping or should i sent the card back before its too late?
the card works great in xp / linux (sp/dif passthrough so the amp decodes things like dts/dd from films)... but i've had to shove a 3.5mm audio lead from the output of the card --> amp and then i get stereo in vista...
the card is a cracker, just a shame that vista has changed the way everything works in the world of sound
Call of duty 4 is an OpenAL game. It should work. Are your OpenAL drivers up to date? You can get them here: OpenAL - Downloads
Edit - make sure all relevant audio options are selected in game too. I don't have it myself but you may need to set up speakers, hardware audio etc.
As far as I can tell, I have surround sound in all of my games. I have Vista 32-bit and an X-Plosion hooked up to a Videologic DigiTheatre DTS setup. I'm fairly sure that games like Call of Duty 4 are using my rear speakers, and everything sounds fantastic! In fact, despite anticipating X-Plosion problems when moving from XP to Vista, everything has been fine. Both Dolby Digital Live and DTS work via Optical-out - as far as I can tell! Things certainly seem to surround me in games!
When you say you're getting nothing in COD4 and general Windows sounds, do you mean no sounds? Or only stereo sounds?
What speakers/amp are you using? Are you using the latest drivers? Are you Vista 32-bit or 64-bit?
Biscuit (21-01-2008)
Ok im wired up via optical to a sony STR-DE400 amp and i currently have 4 tannoy speakers (im just showin off a bit here)
In the sound options of control panel when i go to config i set the speakers to 7.1 and the sound works fine when i click on the specific one to test them
In the c-media config i have the input set to 8 channels and the digital output with dolby live (atm)
After updating the Open AL drivers and having a fiddle around with the settings in COD4 today i managed to get it working. I had tried it with windows default and four speakers but not 5.1. Now i have it set on 5.1 it seems fine
Edit: nevermind. Hadn't read your last comment yet.
Not forgetting the obvious - you have set the drivers to Dolby Digital Live or DTS connect, and at least one of these is supported by your speakers / receiver?
That's excellent news!Originally Posted by Biscuit
Now i have it set on 5.1 it seems fineNow fire up COD4!
well it supports both DTS and Dolby Digital but it dont specifically say that it supports Live/Connect. I thought these where the labels given to the technology of encoding the analogue signals into a regular Digital signal?
Your amp? Live/Connect are just a way for computers to generate a normal Dolby or DTS signal. It's no different from getting the signal from a DVD to the receiver.
Yeah thats what i thought. It does this by encoding the 4 stereo analogue channels (FL+FR, ML+MR, Rl+RR, C+S) into one Dolby/DTS channel. Sorry i got a bit confused, i thought u where suggesting the AMP needed live/connect aswell
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