E2180 OC with P5B Deluxe

Dear All
I have replaced my E6300 with E2180 for testing purpose; the following is brief review of 2180 so that it will be helpful for many people, because with new M/B arrival, many old but useful M/B have been forgotten, like P5B Deluxe

Hardware used:-
CPU Intel E2180, 2.0 GHz
Motherboard Asus P5B Deluxe with v1226 Bios 1226 (latest till now)
RAM Corsair 2048 6400 C5D (Single Channel)
VGA XFX 8800GT 512MB Extreme
CPU Cooler Asus Silent Square

Bios Setting
FSB 330
CPU Multiplier Auto (10)
CPU Voltage 1.5000
Memory voltage 1.85
FSB/RAM Ratio 4:5
RAM timing 5 5 5 18
Spread Spectrum Disabled
Static read Disabled
PCI Freq. 33.3
PCI Express Freq. 100
FSB Voltage 1.40
N B voltage 1.25
S B voltage 1.50
ICH voltage 1. 057

Software used for testing and Benchmarking
Orthos
OCCT v1.1
Prime 95 v25.5
SiSoftware Sandra Lite XIIc
Everest Lavalays
Nuclearus Multicore 1.0 Final
PC Mark 2005
Crysis
3DMark 2005 (169.28 beta)
3DMark 2006 -----------------
Aqua Mark3 -----------------

Pictures attached are self explanatory

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General observations
E6300 had reached only at 2800 mhz with 400 FSB due to its low multiplier i.e. 7

With E2180, system can boot at 3700 mhz but the OS got crashed,

I did not use any Thermal paste between CPU and its cooler

Room temp. during testing was near 20 C.

Maximum Temp. during gaming was obtained by loop running Crysis Benchmark utility in “High” setting in “Win Windows”

I have got 5 FPS loss with E2180 @ 3300 mhz as compared to E6300@2800 mhz in Crysis high setting, which I think shows the Cache size impact on Crysis

All tests were run under Windows xp 32 bit


Some Questions whose answers are required:-

As I mentioned that I did not use Thermal paste (due to unavailability), is using Thermal paste will minimize CPU Temp.? Is there any homemade thing that can be alternative of thermal paste, like oil etc… (forgave me if I am doing blender)

Using Everest(and other monitoring utilities) I get temp. of both cores Separately under load 65 C and temp. of whole core 75, what is the reason?

Is my CPU Cooler is suitable for this level of overclocking, if not, then please tell me the better or best Air Cooler

Is my M/B (P5B Deluxe) is the best choice for over cloaking of E2180, if not then which M/B can overclock E2180 (clearly) better? And which drawbacks P5B Deluxe has with E2180?

CPU Idle temp. is near 38 C. by running Orthos within 10 seconds it jumps to 62/63 after that it jumps to 72/73 then it remains under 80, is it normal behavior? I did not get this JUMPS while overclocking E6300, is it due to absence of Thermal paste?

The motherboard has no modification regarding VDROOP, is this modification will lower the selected temp. in Bios? Can anyone tell me (or refer to a link) how this modification be done on P5B Deluxe?

sorry i don't know how to attach pictures within the forum, please guide me

not using thermal paste will risk damaging that chip..

The last time in memory i heard anyone did that, their chip blew out of the water within minutes on reboot..

No you should use proper stuff, there are alternatives but its very risky..

People have tried toothpaste and it seems to be great, but only for a couple of hours until it dries out.. There are stuff you can try, i.e. if you have say a PVPP stock tablets and you resuspend them into sodium arginate + water on light UV agitation to make arginate branched PVPP polymer which 'sort of' will make 'ok' heat transfer..

Alternatively, setting sodium arginate to polymerise in water with the mixture of perhaps some iron, copper or aluminium salts will make ok thermal paste. But again, the longevity will be questionable..

oil is shear-thinning and will insulate heat transfer than actually help it..

Just pop in to Maplins or somewhere where there's a computer shop and get some shinetsu pads.. they make so much more sense than trying to reinvent the wheel (i.e. reinventing homemade thermal paste)

EDIT: I don't even know why I recommended all that, Most people wont have any access to water soluble metal salts and arginate salts..

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Originally Posted by sawyen

I don't even know why I recommended all that, Most people wont have any access to water soluble metal salts and arginate salts..

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Really? Well they just aren't trying hard enough then.

And yeah, good thermal paste is pretty much a must.

well, since no one is talking about the OC, good OC voodoo54, yes cache size has an impact, as for your motherboard, it is pretty good, dont worry, other motherboards will not OC ur CPU better, this is okay. Just get some thermal paste, if you are using a new ASUS silent square, i think paste comes with it, did you check? Anyways, nice overclock.

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Originally Posted by Hunain

well, since no one is talking about the OC, good OC voodoo54, yes cache size has an impact, as for your motherboard, it is pretty good, dont worry, other motherboards will not OC ur CPU better, this is okay. Just get some thermal paste, if you are using a new ASUS silent square, i think paste comes with it, did you check? Anyways, nice overclock.

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Thank you for appreciation, now i have got thermal paste and put it on cpu, as i mentioned i replaced 2180 with 6300 so its paste already had been used,

okay ,good, hope your CPU runs lower on temp now, do let us know about any changes you observe.

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Originally Posted by Hunain

okay ,good, hope your CPU runs lower on temp now, do let us know about any changes you observe.

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now the temp. has been reduced 5 to 7 C, and i am running at 3400 mhz, if i get excellent cooler then i hope i will run it at 3700 mhz as my system can boot at 3700 mhz,

yeah, maybe get a scythe Ninja, all copper one, looks cooool :P