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    My proposed spec - suggestions please

    Hi all,

    This is my first PC self build so I am not sure if all this goes together (or everything required is here) or if I am over/under doing some components. I basically want to put together a system that can handle running Crysis / COD4 / Bioshock to a good quality setings and still achieve reasonable frame
    rates. Suggestions welcome

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    Re: My proposed spec - suggestions please :confused:

    Looks good generally, only a couple of things:

    The 8800GTX isnt the best value for money as the lower cards have caught up, a 512mb 8800GTS will give very similar performance for less money (the GTX is still king tho).

    Also why get the mini ninja when u have a case that can easily accomodate a bigger heatsink like the regular nina or infinity which will give better performance.

    Finally dont bother with the XFI xtreme audio, its not a true XFI chip. Either stick with onboard or get a better card.

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    Re: My proposed spec - suggestions please :confused:

    Hey again. I'll give a break down to make it easier to read:

    Intel Q6600
    Good choice although if you're not buying right away it's worth looking at the Q9450 that'll be released some time in March. It should run cooler and have a higher maximum overclock.

    Antec P180
    Take a look at the newer P182 - it's basically an improved P180.

    550W Corsair VX
    Consider spending a little extra on the modular 520W Corsair HX.

    Abit IP-35 Pro


    OCZ ReaperX
    The massive heatsinks make them very impractical and PC8000 is a lil overkill. Get a nice set of PC6400 and you'll be set.

    Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 500GB
    I can't judge this drive but I can tell you the Western Digital AAKS range is near-as-dammit silent goodness, take a look at the WD5000AAKS.

    BFG GeForce 8800 GTX
    I wouldn't be touching a GTX with the 8800GT/S on the scene. The 512MB MSI 8800GTS ShaderOC looks very promising as it has a huge stock overclock.

    Scythe Mini Ninja
    Not by any means a bad HSF but the Scythe Mugen and Scythe Ninja will be a good few degrees better.

    Samsung SH-S203P/RSMN
    Lightscribe's pants , save a few quid and get the Samsung SH-S203D.

    22" LG L226WTQ
    Got one myself and I have to say I loves it. However, it's worth noting that she doesn't have a HDMI port.

    Altec Lansing THX 2.1
    Damn good speakers, I was going to get them myself but after a lot of thought I went with a 5.1 system for the same price...

    Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Xtreme 7.1 Audio
    Bit of a naff card to be honest. Check the Xtreme Gamer out, it's much better.

    Windows Vista Home Premium 32Bit
    Don't waste that 64bit CPU, get 64bit Vista!

    Hope that helps!
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    Re: My proposed spec - suggestions please :confused:

    Quote Originally Posted by NightshadowUK View Post
    550W Corsair VX
    Consider spending a little extra on the modular 520W Corsair HX
    I agree with this, the HX520 along with the P182 is a real tidy combination

    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanKiwi View Post
    Abit IP-35 Pro
    Abit IP-35 Pro - maybe no need for this unless you plan to overclock. the Standard model will be fine if you dont

    Quote Originally Posted by NightshadowUK View Post
    Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 500GB
    I can't judge this drive but I can tell you the Western Digital AAKS range is near-as-dammit silent goodness, take a look at the WD5000AAKS.
    Im a western digital man aswell and i can second this

    Quote Originally Posted by NightshadowUK View Post
    Altec Lansing THX 2.1
    Damn good speakers, I was going to get them myself but after a lot of thought I went with a 5.1 system for the same price...
    Hmm i wouldnt say they are that great, got soem for a mate and yes listning to music was great but when your not doing anything there is a low level buzz which would really irritate me. Go with the logitech 5.1 or a lesser 2.1 system.
    If audio is of great importance then maybe look into hifi seperates


    Quote Originally Posted by NightshadowUK View Post
    Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Xtreme 7.1 Audio
    Bit of a naff card to be honest. Check the Xtreme Gamer out, it's much better.
    Personally i havent been impressed with creative in the slightest, i moved onto this and am over the moon with it
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    Re: My proposed spec - suggestions please :confused:

    Abit IP-35 Pro - maybe no need for this unless you plan to overclock. the Standard model will be fine if you dont

    Yes I am planning to overclock

    Hmm i wouldnt say they are that great, got soem for a mate and yes listning to music was great but when your not doing anything there is a low level buzz which would really irritate me. Go with the logitech 5.1 or a lesser 2.1 system.
    If audio is of great importance then maybe look into hifi seperates


    Well it's too late as I have already bought the set , I am quite pleased with them so far, I haven't bought any other components yet, thanks for the other useful comments

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    Re: My proposed spec - suggestions please :confused:

    Quote Originally Posted by NightshadowUK View Post
    Hey again. I'll give a break down to make it easier to read:

    Intel Q6600
    Good choice although if you're not buying right away it's worth looking at the Q9450 that'll be released some time in March. It should run cooler and have a higher maximum overclock.

    Unfortunately my current system is producing many BSOD errors currently and it is forcing me into action earlier than I expected !

    Antec P180
    Take a look at the newer P182 - it's basically an improved P180.

    Yes this looks like the one!

    OCZ ReaperX
    The massive heatsinks make them very impractical and PC8000 is a lil overkill. Get a nice set of PC6400 and you'll be set.

    Yes I was thinking they might have been 'tricky' to fit, thanks for confirming.

    Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 500GB
    I can't judge this drive but I can tell you the Western Digital AAKS range is near-as-dammit silent goodness, take a look at the WD5000AAKS.

    People say alot of good things about these, will probably go with this too!

    BFG GeForce 8800 GTX
    I wouldn't be touching a GTX with the 8800GT/S on the scene. The 512MB MSI 8800GTS ShaderOC looks very promising as it has a huge stock overclock.

    Nice!

    Scythe Mini Ninja
    Not by any means a bad HSF but the Scythe Mugen and Scythe Ninja will be a good few degrees better.

    I wasn't sure these would fit but I agree bigger is better for these HSF's

    Samsung SH-S203P/RSMN
    Lightscribe's pants , save a few quid and get the Samsung SH-S203D.

    Yup!


    Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Xtreme 7.1 Audio
    Bit of a naff card to be honest. Check the Xtreme Gamer out, it's much better.

    Looks like a good match for me.
    Windows Vista Home Premium 32Bit
    Don't waste that 64bit CPU, get 64bit Vista!

    I wasn't sure that 64bit was really useful at present but I will definitely take another look.

    Hope that helps!
    Thanks again NightshadowUK, very thorough!

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    Re: My proposed spec - suggestions please :confused:

    My 2p worth (similar comments to previous posts):

    CPU Intel Quad Q6600 2.40GHz - excellent choice

    Case Antec P180 - Consider P182

    PSU 550W Corsair VX - go modular HX520 or HX620

    Motherboard Abit IP-35 Pro - excellent board, overkill if you won't be overclocking though

    RAM OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) PC2-8000C5 1000MHz - overkill, standard PC6400 will allow you to O/C the Q6600

    Soundcard Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Xtreme 7.1 Audio PCI-E Soundcard OEM - Abit IP35-Pro has onboard HD sound so this may be overkill

    OS - Vista Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 32Bit 1Pk OEM (DVD) - consider 64-bit

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    Re: My proposed spec - suggestions please :confused:

    Definitely consider Vista 64bit! You're putting 4Gb of RAM in the machine, so you be much better off using 64bit.

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    Re: My proposed spec - suggestions please :confused:

    I agree with the above for the most part but you could go for one of the new Wolfdale CPUs and either save a lot of money or get a lot more power for your money.

    Yes, they're not quad core but for gaming that's just not an issue.
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    Re: My proposed spec - suggestions please :confused:

    thats looks great, only one thing i'd change if it's mainly for gaming. I'd get a dual core E8200 / E8400 something along those lines.

    For gaming currently dual core is the way as they are stock at a higher frequency and can overclock higher easier.

    give it a year and maybe quad is necessary but not yet.

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    Re: My proposed spec - suggestions please :confused:

    Lose the 32bit OS for the 64Bit version.

    Why spend all that and then take a big step back on the OS.

    Quote Originally Posted by freddie View Post
    thats looks great, only one thing i'd change if it's mainly for gaming. I'd get a dual core E8200 / E8400 something along those lines.

    For gaming currently dual core is the way as they are stock at a higher frequency and can overclock higher easier.

    give it a year and maybe quad is necessary but not yet.
    Thats what is assumed but is incorrect.
    I couldnt decide between Wolfdale and Kentsfield either but...........regardless of whether the Wolfdale clocks higher, the Q6600 is a faster solution to everything.

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    Re: My proposed spec - suggestions please :confused:

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    the Q6600 is a faster solution to everything.
    Can you actually back that up (since the Wolfdales aren't actually released yet)? Only I thought that it was generally accepted that quad cores only saw a real performance boost with software specifically written to take advantage of them, which most games aren't anywhere close to yet.
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    Re: My proposed spec - suggestions please :confused:

    The wolfdales have been released although they can be very hard to get because they are in high demand (out of stock everywhere).

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    Re: My proposed spec - suggestions please :confused:

    Fact of the matter is, if you want to overclock the wolfdale quads to their full potential you will need to buy more expensive RAM and possibly more expensive motherboards to get the best from them while the Q6600 with it's lower FSB makes it much easier to overclock on midrange motherboards and RAM.

    Difference between the E8400 @ 4.0GHz and Q6600 @ 3.6GHz will be negligable and essentially unoticable.

    you seem to be building the mid range special which is a good choice at the moment so personally I would get

    Q6600 + scythe ninja (full size not mini as its perfect for the P182) note: ninja might not work with reaper RAM, just get normal size ram
    4GB (2x2GB) PC6400 (corsair, ocz, geil.. it's all good)
    Abit IP-35 dark raider or PRO
    8800GTS (GTX is getting on a bit, is still more expensive and limited warranty on OEM's, no need for more than that for 22")
    Antec P182 (slightly better than P180, just nice revisions)
    Corsair 520W HX (modular is much much easier for the P182)
    500GB Western Digital AAKS
    Samsung Optical Drive
    Vista 64bit.

    That will give you most of the gaming performance of any PC out there, especially at what is now to be considered a relatively low resolution. Spending anymore would be a waste.
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    Re: My proposed spec - suggestions please :confused:

    Quote Originally Posted by Salazaar View Post
    Can you actually back that up (since the Wolfdales aren't actually released yet)? Only I thought that it was generally accepted that quad cores only saw a real performance boost with software specifically written to take advantage of them, which most games aren't anywhere close to yet.
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    Re: My proposed spec - suggestions please :confused:

    Quote Originally Posted by staffsMike View Post
    Fact of the matter is, if you want to overclock the wolfdale quads to their full potential you will need to buy more expensive RAM and possibly more expensive motherboards to get the best from them while the Q6600 with it's lower FSB makes it much easier to overclock on midrange motherboards and RAM.

    Difference between the E8400 @ 4.0GHz and Q6600 @ 3.6GHz will be negligable and essentially unoticable.

    Sound advice, cheers!

    you seem to be building the mid range special which is a good choice at the moment so personally I would get

    You would be right, mid range all the way!

    Q6600 + scythe ninja (full size not mini as its perfect for the P182) note: ninja might not work with reaper RAM, just get normal size ram
    4GB (2x2GB) PC6400 (corsair, ocz, geil.. it's all good)
    Abit IP-35 dark raider or PRO
    8800GTS (GTX is getting on a bit, is still more expensive and limited warranty on OEM's, no need for more than that for 22")
    Antec P182 (slightly better than P180, just nice revisions)
    Corsair 520W HX (modular is much much easier for the P182)
    500GB Western Digital AAKS
    Samsung Optical Drive
    Vista 64bit.

    That will give you most of the gaming performance of any PC out there, especially at what is now to be considered a relatively low resolution. Spending anymore would be a waste.
    Good advice again staffsMike (you suggested some good stuff to me last year) unfortunately I can't wait for new release GFX cards as you advised last year as I need to start building now!

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