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nice threadin the same budget range myself, more or less, although I already have the psu, ram and a HDD to start with. Several people have said get a 8800gt rather than the 9600 ...is there likely to be a big difference for the price difference? (I'm hoping to be running games at 1680x1050.)
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not a big difference, but it would be a stronger performer at that resolution.
There is actually a good difference.Originally Posted by -iceblade^
The 8800GT will outperform the 9600 card at any resolution.
The 9600's are designed to take the place of the awful 8600 series.
If you are running at 1680x1050 then the 8800GT actually isnt that great either.
This is where the 8800GTS G92 comes in........i have been using one since release on a 22" and it crunches through anything with ease.
If only the 9600gt was actually selling at around £100, it would be more tempting.... Isn't it a newer chipset than the 8800gt, more efficient, cooler etc. and what the next range of cards will be based on?
I dunno...
I only have a 19" monitor, probably won't be using crazy resolutions, I need a fairly mid-range graphics card at a more mid-range kinda price. I'll give it a week or two seeing as they haven't been out all that long...
These 'next gen 9 series cards' are not really next gen at all.
They use the G92 core (as do the 8800's) and the PCB is identical.
The cooling on the 8800's is very efficient and quiet (well on the GTS's it is anyway).
The 8800's are more powerful and will serve needs better.
If you are on a 19" monitor though the 9600GT will suit your needs fine.
Why do people keep calling the 8600GT awful???? It is a cost vs performance choice, pure and simple.
From Scans current price list, the cheapest cards they have in each range:
8600GT £46.87
9600GT £103.78 (if it was in stock, else £111.26 if you want it now)
8800GT £137.72
So for less than half the price of the 9600GT, you get slightly under half the performance (half the shaders, half the memory bandwidth). Not exactly shocking that.
Oh, but for 33% more money than the 9600GT I can get 75% more shaders with the 8800GT which is lets face it a bit of a bargain.
IMHO the 9600GT has to come down by at least 20 quid to become a sensible choice compared to the cheap or the good choice we had already. As for the overclock versions that cost 150 quid, the mind just boggles who would buy it!
Well I maintain my mobile 8400gs is actually pretty good so the 8600GT should be awesome
If you are playing at the low res then the 8600GT is pretty good, it won't blow your socks off but it is pretty good.
Once ATi drop the prices on the HD38**'s I don't think there will be any question about bangs for bucks
lol, awesome is possibly over-doing it
Still, if you think of it as a 7900GS replacement I think for 50 quid that is rather good.
I agree.lol, awesome is possibly over-doing it
Still, if you think of it as a 7900GS replacement I think for 50 quid that is rather good.
For the price now its not a bad card and ideal for a media centre.
Unfortunately though, it has been sold in many places on the premise that its a 'gaming' card which it clearly isnt.
if it is meant to take the place of a gaming card, then it fails IMO... nVidia's x600 cards are meant to be superb performers, like the 8800gt and the 9600gt. the 320mb gts in it's time, was what the 8600gt should have been
The 320mb GTS was more like what the 8800GT is now or somewhere between the What the GT and GTS are now. The 8600GT performs pretty much where it should, I think you are overlooking the 8600GTS which is the major dissapointment from the 8600 range, bangs for bucks make it useless.
both of them weren't good... at least, not as good as any of the cards out now, and certainly not as good as the cards that preceeded them were when they came out...
i remember my friend getting a 7600GT and i was SO jealous... and the 8600 lacked that 'mainstream punch' effect. I think that it boils down to the fact that both sides weren't as ready for DX10, which is why i don't envy anyone who got stuck with one of those cards...
Problem is that is price and performance NOW.
When the 8600gt was released it was £90-110 and was out performed by the 7900gs in DX9 games which cost around £70-80 at the time. It was giveing about the same performance as the 7600gt which was around £50, so you were paying an extra £50 for dx10.
The price has droped crazly due to new series coming out and trying to get rid of old stock.
I'd also point out that the drivers made some big improvements to it's performance it now plays around the same as the 7900gs in dx9
But as a replacement for a 7900gs or better? I'd say no, you don't really lose that much on dx9 over dx10 esp at this performance level.
The 9600gt is another matter, it'll out perform the high end dx9 series cards and is a solid contender in the mid range.
All sounds good, though that seems a lot to pay for a case on a budget like that...
Today only on scan all this weekend gives you a E2220 for £52Bargain!
Intel Pentium Dual-Core, E2220, Socket 775, Allendale Core, 2x2.4 GHz, 1MB Cache, Retail £44.75 £52.58
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Ok I'm gonna order up some stuff, still not sure about the graphics card though, prices seem to be all over the place at the moment.
I-Cute Black UL01 Mid Tower Case £21
Corsair HX Series 520W Modular PSU £65
Abit Dark Raider £58
4gb OCZ PC2-6400 £65
E2220 £53
320gb spinpoint £46
Comes to £308... I'll pick up a graphics card soon off ebay or summat and see what I can do about getting Vista on the cheap
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