*throws things at off-topic people*
getting back on-topic, kicking the hijackers overboard and basically trying to get back to the point:
Are these right?
Intel E4500 = AMD 5000+
Intel E4500 cost > AMD 5000+ cost
Intel E4500 overall < AMD 5000+ overall
Originally Posted by Fortune117
Kids are getting smarter, eventually no amount of parental controls will be able to stop themI guess we're expected to do quite well
The motherboards for AMD should be cheaper I would think.
I did completly miss the point, sorry
Last edited by digit; 04-04-2008 at 12:41 AM. Reason: Didnt think before hitting post
I won't even bother commenting on that last post.
Actually.. I will...
Trading in on performance? This ENTIRE thread is about what is the EQUIVALENT in performance to an E4500....
Which seems to be a 5000+... common opinion, give or take. 5000+ costs less than the E4500. The AMD mobos cost less than the Intel ones.
Therefore: E4500 gets pwned by 5000+.
Only downside is probably OCing, but I'm not normally bothered about OCing, due to - like second hand stuff - bad experiences with it... like it managing to blow up the last computer I had to the point where I was unable to do anything to it (it burnt out... no heat detectors on my last CPU (it was like... 5 years old) so it just kept on running till smoke came outta the back and it ruined the circuitry or something.)
I probably would OC at some point, but only when I've got the time to spend and the money to spare on parts that get damaged.
Irrelevant anyway... can't seem to find a nice set of components to run with AMD 5000+ so I'm sticking with the E4500.
Seems wierd, standing up for the 5000+ then taking the E4500 anyway, but oh well... life's life!
Kids are getting smarter, eventually no amount of parental controls will be able to stop them
My E4300 that I paid £39 for (including postage) runs rather well although a little warm at 3.24Ghz without any problems
I have also have a AM2 4600+ and even with that clocked to 2.92Ghz, it couldnt keep up with my E4300, let alone my standard clocked E6600.
I wonder what this new QX9650 will be like...
*imagines a totally OCed QX9650. Freaks out*
Kids are getting smarter, eventually no amount of parental controls will be able to stop them
These E4300's have to be the BEST BANG FOR BUCK chips EVER to go on sale.My E4300 that I paid £39 for (including postage) runs rather well although a little warm at 3.24Ghz without any problems
I have also have a AM2 4600+ and even with that clocked to 2.92Ghz, it couldnt keep up with my E4300, let alone my standard clocked E6600.
I wonder what this new QX9650 will be like...
Its just arrived or more so I've arrived home and I have the CPUAll is to do now is to install it into my SLI'd 8800GT rig and see what separates the men from the boys
Of course I'm just still a kid even at 27!!
No offence meant... but if that "My system" thing isn't Out of Date then your RAM is like... the same model I'm getting on my £284.17 comp
Surely you could go and spend another£50 on it and double it? Makes it into a better toy to play with...
I was playing Black and White this morning (it's a little old, but I enjoy it) on my old P3 computer. It was originally running on 256mb RAM (hijacked out of a HP computer I got for ~£15 off a friend) and was running slow, so jacked out another 128 from the HP and stuck it into my P3 computer.
It immediately started working better.... just 128mb of RAM certainly makes a huge difference to littler games, so I hate to think what it'll do to Crysis, Assassin's Creed or the other hi-spec games out there
Oblivion also springs to mind, but I've not seen a single computer yet that can run that game on highest quality (with all AA, maxed out Resolution and everything else you can do with Oblivion to improve the quality of graphics) so I doubt that a few GB of RAM will make much difference... I think it's mainly the graphic cards that are the problem, but I'm not willing to spend a couple of thousand on a computer to find out wether or not two SLIed Graphic Cards are able to run the thing on highest...
Kids are getting smarter, eventually no amount of parental controls will be able to stop them
Mediaboy who are you talking too??
5000+ BE made a nice upgrade for me. Takes 1.4v to keep mine stable at 3.0GHz though. Suspect it could do more with better cooling. Guess I'm too late to influence the decision though.
you Phil...
you're RAM is now one model down from the one I'm getting (I'm getting PC-6400, yours is PC 5300)
Uriel - not really, as I'm buying the stuff either tonight or tommorrow...
Kids are getting smarter, eventually no amount of parental controls will be able to stop them
I guess this roundup might be handy: Welcome to AnandTech.com [ Article: Midrange CPU Roundup: It's Time to Buy]
It has benchmarks for stock E4500 and the X2 5000+. Bear in mind that the 5000+ isn't the BE, so it runs hotter and doesn't overclock as easily. Looks like the two are very close at stock, with a slight edge to the E4500.
mediaboy (06-04-2008)
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