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    Yet another, new PC, Help.

    Hey, im looking at building a PC for someone, looks are just as/if not more important than the main functionals.
    but he also wants cheapness, i.e. under £200 delivered

    so far this is what i've come up with (all off ebuyer, because it seems to be cheapest at the minute)

    Mobo: Here ASUS M2N-MX SE

    CPU: here AMD Sempron LE-1200

    RAM: here Corsair 1GB DDR2 533MHz/PC24200

    HDD: here Western Digital WD800AAJS

    DVD: here Sony DRU-190S

    and most importantly (for him) Case: here EV Shiny Piano Black/Red

    and i think that it is going to need a separate PSU, as i don't think that the one in the case will power it.

    so PSU: here Corsair VX450WUK 450W PSU
    i know that is grossly over watted.

    all of this comes to £198.14 delivered.

    Obviously any changes etc that i can make to make the overall system better will be greatly appriciated.

    even if it does mean using an intel cpu and mobo.

    bottom line is it needs to be cheap, and look good.

    oh and also, as this is going to be my first venture into m-atx, i don't know how big the case is and if everything will fit

    any ideas?
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    Re: Yet another, new PC, Help.

    Will a stardard size PSU fit in that case? It seems to have a microATX psu included and it looks quite narrow.

    I think the best thing (if he likes the cases) is to get an Asus barebones AM2 system. You can save a lot of money that way and could probably get, 2gb of RAM and dual core etc.. if that would be useful to him.

    you can go £30 cheaper but this is a nice looking case
    Asus T3-M2NC51PV Silver AM2 Barebone - With 250W PSU - Ebuyer

    and 250w will be plenty.

    going cheaper
    ASUS Vintage V3-M2V890 - SKT AM2 - With 300W PSU - Ebuyer

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    Re: Yet another, new PC, Help.

    Quote Originally Posted by staffsMike View Post
    Will a stardard size PSU fit in that case? It seems to have a microATX psu included and it looks quite narrow.
    see thats one of the reasons i thought i had better ask

    he seems to have only used his old pc for email and internet browsing and things.

    his old pc was a cyrix 700mhz with 56mb of ram an hes coped with that on windows ME up until now
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    Re: Yet another, new PC, Help.

    wow thats old lol

    I'd deffinatly take a look at different cases, personally the asus barebones would sway me but if it doesn't look great..

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    Re: Yet another, new PC, Help.

    I specced this up from Ebuyer using the free postage offer:

    EV Shiny Piano Black/Red Super Slim Micro ATX Mini Tower Case - With 200W PSU 20+4pin 1x SATA 134831 744 in stock £26.99 £22.97 £26.99 £22.97


    OCZ StealthXtream 500W PSU - 1x PCI-E 6/8pin, 2x SATA 12cm Fan 135159 85 in stock £32.66 £27.79 £32.66 £27.79


    MSI P6NGM-L GeForce 7050 Socket 775 Onboard VGA 8 channel audio mATX Motherboard 140212 45 in stock £32.00 £27.23 £32.00 £27.23


    Intel Celeron Dual Core E1200 Socket 775 (1.60GHz) 800FSB 512KB L2 Cache Retail Boxed Processor 139975 36 in stock £32.06 £27.28 £32.06 £27.28

    Kingston 1GB DDR2 667MHz / PC2-5300 MEMORY CL5 1.8V NON ECC UNBUFFERED 091121 1006 in stock £11.99 £10.20 £11.99 £10.20

    Western Digital WD800AAJS 80GB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 8MB Cache - OEM 131310 106 in stock £25.61 £21.79 £25.61 £21.79

    Optiarc AD-7200S 20X DVD±RW/DL/RAM Internal SATA Bare Black Drive - OEM 139414 67 in stock £15.95 £13.57 £15.95 £13.57

    Total: £177.26

    I assume you have a copy of an appropriate OS?? Also instead of spending extra on Nero you can use Deepburner for free!!

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    Re: Yet another, new PC, Help.

    ok. following staffsMike's advice, i've changed the spec, (i have no idea what is included with a barebones system tho, im guessing mobo case n psu?)

    Barebones: here Asus T3-M2NC51PV

    CPU: here AMD Athlon 64 X2 3600+

    HDD: here Western Digital WD800AAJS

    RAM: here Corsair 1GB DDR2 533MHz/PC24200

    DVD: here Sony DRU-190S

    new price:£195.47 delivered

    anymore things i can upgrade? while keeping price below £200

    edit: but barebones is looking the best way TBH

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH
    I assume you have a copy of an appropriate OS??
    yeh i've got XP free from college
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    Re: Yet another, new PC, Help.

    A barebones usually contains the case,motherboard and PSU.

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    Re: Yet another, new PC, Help.

    Looks sweet to me

    AMD's do like faster low lactency RAM though so i would spend the extra on this
    OCZ 1Gb DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 Memory 4-4-4-15 DFI Certified Platinum (Lifetime Warranty) - Ebuyer

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    A barebones usually contains the case,motherboard and PSU.
    and onboard graphics

    EDIT: i have just noticed that the CPU is an OEM which means you will need a cheap HSF to go with it.
    something like this maybe
    Arctic Cooling (AC-ALP-64) Alpine 64 CPU Cooler - Ebuyer

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    Re: Yet another, new PC, Help.

    Quote Originally Posted by staffsMike View Post
    Looks sweet to me

    AMD's do like faster low lactency RAM though so i would spend the extra on this
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    and onboard graphics
    Not necessarily!! Try telling that to my Shuttle!!

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    Re: Yet another, new PC, Help.

    yet another spec revise

    Barebones: here Asus T3-M2NC51PV

    CPU: here AMD Athlon 64 X2 3600+

    HDD: here Western Digital WD800AAJS

    RAM: here OCZ 1Gb DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400

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    Re: Yet another, new PC, Help.

    That's kool just that HSF you need to get, unless you have one you could use.

    Optiarc AD-7200S 20X DVD±RW/DL/RAM Internal SATA Bare Black Drive - OEM - Ebuyer save £5 with that to cover it.

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    Re: Yet another, new PC, Help.

    HSF? what about the one in the box?
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    Re: Yet another, new PC, Help.

    Quote Originally Posted by TAKTAK View Post
    HSF? what about the one in the box?
    It's an OEM CPU so it doesn't come with one unfortunatly. Mentions it on the page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAKTAK View Post
    HSF? what about the one in the box?
    The CPU is OEM so it is the processor only.The retail package will contain the CPU+the HSF.

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    Re: Yet another, new PC, Help.

    oop, i overlooked that this time
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    Re: Yet another, new PC, Help.

    what about:

    here Akasa AK 860SF ?
    doesn't need to be too powerful surely?
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