high idle temps

[dagger_meerkat]

I hope not

Yeh I may need to reseat it i guess, but with pushpins its impossible to fit with the motherboard installed, no space for moving around for starters.

I have AC MX-2 and arcticlean, will they suffice? do i need to spread it out with a card, or just do what you said and maybe it'll spread by itself?

I had that MX stuff once, its horrible stuff. Its very hard to spread, very grainy also. No idea bout the mx-2 but maybe the paste is the problem here since you say your heatsink is pretty much flush and seated OK. Either ways .. a reseat with different paste [just to be sure its not the paste, tub of AS5 costs like 5 quid] might take care of all your problems or you could jus try reseating with the mx2 first.

[TAKTAK]

the intel heatsinks bend the motherboards after time due to the careless design.
i have another system an abit il8 motherboard/netburst P4 EE its stock it idles around 48C because of this.

i can post images of this if anyone cares to see.

or not.........*generally* things go wrong because of user error, the mounting mechanism has nothing to do with it... hence why there are lots and lots of happy users of intel systems that don't have'bent motherboards'

i'd like to see more than one piece of evidence to support your quote...

[TAKTAK]

taktak your a trouble maker.

[looney]

I had that MX stuff once, its horrible stuff. Its very hard to spread, very grainy also. No idea bout the mx-2 but maybe the paste is the problem here since you say your heatsink is pretty much flush and seated OK. Either ways .. a reseat with different paste [just to be sure its not the paste, tub of AS5 costs like 5 quid] might take care of all your problems or you could jus try reseating with the mx2 first.

MX-2 is very good, its not like the mx1

I installed RealTemp, and it shows my temps lower then Coretemp and all the rest, it shows it less then 4c, which one do i trust?

[peterb]

Personally I have never had a problem with MX1 - but it does take a few thermal cycles to 'bed in' after which the temps are lower than they are at first power up.

[Thorsson]

MX-2 is very good, its not like the mx1

I installed RealTemp, and it shows my temps lower then Coretemp and all the rest, it shows it less then 4c, which one do i trust?

Can you post a pic? Alternatively can you list the temps and the "to TJMax" figures?

[staffsMike]

I always go with whatever reports the highest..within reason of course.

That way you know the worst case temps

[Thorsson]

That's true (of course). But I'm convinced that Real Temp gives the most accurate reading most of the time. You just need to check against the die temp to avoid stupid figures.

[dagger_meerkat]

Did you reseat the heatsink?

Its not a matter of which temp monitor he uses if he's experiencing such high temps with coretemp. Stick with one until you have sorted out your temperature issues so that you don't introduce a different variable into the equation. Realtemp shows all my cores 5 degrees lower than coretemp, and according to Abit and Extremesystems, realtemp is right.

But when on a mission to reduce temps, stick with one program. And coretemp is giving you higher temperatures relatively compared to the rest with q6600s and that's the issue. If you have reseated, have you had any change?

[Thorsson]

or not.........*generally* things go wrong because of user error

Indeed. Most errors occur between chair and keyboard...

[looney]

Heres screenshots of the two programs reporting the temps (these are idle temps)

[looney]

Did you reseat the heatsink?

Its not a matter of which temp monitor he uses if he's experiencing such high temps with coretemp. Stick with one until you have sorted out your temperature issues so that you don't introduce a different variable into the equation. Realtemp shows all my cores 5 degrees lower than coretemp, and according to Abit and Extremesystems, realtemp is right.

But when on a mission to reduce temps, stick with one program. And coretemp is giving you higher temperatures relatively compared to the rest with q6600s and that's the issue. If you have reseated, have you had any change?

Unfortunately I have reseated it yet, havent had the time to do it to be honest, I'm just trying out real temp, to see if i actually need to reseat, as I want to avoid taking everything apart

[dagger_meerkat]

LOL .. I would not have hesitated a second if I was in your shoes, I love taking my PC apart and putting everything back together!

But point is you are going to have to sort this issue out because 45 idle is NOT GOOD. Your load temps will be through the roof, and you haven't even overclocked yet. Those idle temps are 8 degrees higher than my overclocked q6600 idle temps. Fair enough, I have a larger heatsink but still I can bet there is something very wrong here.

And when ambient temperatures do go up in summer, those temps are going to scale also.

So set yourself 1.5 hrs aside and reseat

Edit: See here for my temps

This is just a random thought: its possible that your Q6600 is being hit with more voltage than necessary, worth checking out your BIOS and setting everything to factory defaults? Can you put up a cpu-z shot?

[looney]

LOL .. I would not have hesitated a second if I was in your shoes, I love taking my PC apart and putting everything back together!

But point is you are going to have to sort this issue out because 45 idle is NOT GOOD. Your load temps will be through the roof, and you haven't even overclocked yet. Those idle temps are 8 degrees higher than my overclocked q6600 idle temps. Fair enough, I have a larger heatsink but still I can bet there is something very wrong here.

And when ambient temperatures do go up in summer, those temps are going to scale also.

So set yourself 1.5 hrs aside and reseat

Edit: See here for my temps

This is just a random thought: its possible that your Q6600 is being hit with more voltage than necessary, worth checking out your BIOS and setting everything to factory defaults? Can you put up a cpu-z shot?

lol, i havent had the time, and if i'm honest, i'm a little scared when installing the cpu and hsf, dont ask why

My loads temps arent that bad i think, highest on a core is 59c, on OCCT stress test for 1hr, and when i'm playing games or doing anything else highe temp on a core is 50c and those were on a hot summers day on a normal day it decreases by 2c, but yeh it doesnt leave much room for OCing.

I'm gonna try and reseat sometime nextweek and see what happens. thanks fo rth link.

Everything in the BIOS is standard, apart from C1E and EIST which are disabled, i think the standard setting for volts is on auto. Heres a screenshot.

[dagger_meerkat]

Vcore ain't the problem.

How much do your temps fall by if you leave the case open? And that load temp ain't so bad. What's your load on Small FFT Prime95?

[looney]

Vcore ain't the problem.

How much do your temps fall by if you leave the case open?

Havent tried that out properly tbh, i did leave it open once, but it didnt change anything iirc, my pc is pretty cool inside to be honest, got a total of 6fans varying in sizes and got the cable tidyng done, so airflow should be ok, the hsf doesnt get very hot either when i touch the metal fins