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    high idle temps

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    I seem to get high idle temps for some reason, thought it might be the weather, but its been cold for the last two days and the temps have only gone down by 2 degrees

    Idle now is 36-43
    Load is between 52-59

    on hot days the idle is 37-45.

    Although when I play games its around 38-48

    Anyone know why this might be?

    doesnt leave much room for overclocking, it was abit of a struggle installing the HSF, but it did finally secure in place and I dont really want to reseat it, cos it would mean getting everything out and dismantling the rig.

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    Re: high idle temps

    check that the HSF is secured properly if u already havn't, it mite of loosened and isn't getting good contact.

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    Re: high idle temps

    How can I check it without taking everything out?

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    Re: high idle temps

    1) I take it you're on about the cpu

    2) What are you using to view the temps?
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    Re: high idle temps

    Quote Originally Posted by looney View Post
    How can I check it without taking everything out?
    u shouldn't have to take everything out...just use ur finger around the sides to see if it is flush where the plug/pins get pushed in. but im assuming u have a stock HSF, if u have a different one it might be harder to check.

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    Re: high idle temps

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithrandir View Post
    1) I take it you're on about the cpu

    2) What are you using to view the temps?
    I'm using coretemp, ive also used a few others like speedfan HWmonitor and stresstest on OCCT, all show the same teamps respectively

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    Re: high idle temps

    Quote Originally Posted by HSK View Post
    u shouldn't have to take everything out...just use ur finger around the sides to see if it is flush where the plug/pins get pushed in. but im assuming u have a stock HSF, if u have a different one it might be harder to check.
    It seems flush, will check again, and no im not using stock hsf, using the one in my sig, the Akasa 965 which uses the same method.

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    Re: high idle temps

    opps, i missed that. yea just make sure it aint come loose, similar thing happened to me i started getting higher temps.

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    Re: high idle temps

    I was experiencing similar problems not too long ago with my idle temps reaching about 44 with a scythe ninja on a e6300!

    Now my temps idle at 31 which I am quite happy with (even in the hot days never goes above 34 )

    Heres what I did, hopefully it could be of some help:

    1) Removed the motherboard and re-applied the paste on the CPU (just left a blob in the center, but with quads i think its different)

    2) Attached the heatsink (which was the problem in the first place) and made sure it was properly connected i.e made sure the push pins came through the other side of the mobo and made sure the heatsink didnt move and had a flush connection with the cpu

    3) Put everything back in its place and made sure there was no cables/wires distracting the case's airflow (can make quite a difference)

    This was pretty much the procedure i did till i got it right and was happy with the idle temps. In my case it was the way i applied the paste and also the heatsink connection which caused my high idle temps in the first place.

    Hope this helps

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    Re: high idle temps

    I can't work out why your idle temperature fluctuates so much (or the load one for that matter). 36-43 ignoring the ambient effect seems way too wide a range. When is it 36 and when is it 43?

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    Re: high idle temps

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorsson View Post
    I can't work out why your idle temperature fluctuates so much (or the load one for that matter). 36-43 ignoring the ambient effect seems way too wide a range. When is it 36 and when is it 43?
    Same thoughts here, that range is way too wide especially for a g0. Probably mean that the HS is tilted slightly not making good contact with the some cores?

    For the paste, it has to be applied in a thin line that spans 3/4s of the chip across the middle. I think reseating would be your best bet looney ; its a bit of work, but at least you can be sure that you tried it.

    I am pretty sure you can reseat without having to remove the whole motherboard with push-pin heatsinks?
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    Re: high idle temps

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorsson View Post
    I can't work out why your idle temperature fluctuates so much (or the load one for that matter). 36-43 ignoring the ambient effect seems way too wide a range. When is it 36 and when is it 43?
    Sorry should of made it clear, thats the range of the cores, at the moment core 1 and 2 are at 43 degress, they always stay the same to each other, and the other two 3 and four are 39 and 37. They sometimes fluctuate by 1-2 degrees depending on what im doing.

    Also thing is on startup they are 31-36, and then just rise upto those.

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    Same thoughts here, that range is way too wide especially for a g0. Probably mean that the HS is tilted slightly not making good contact with the some cores?

    For the paste, it has to be applied in a thin line that spans 3/4s of the chip across the middle. I think reseating would be your best bet looney ; its a bit of work, but at least you can be sure that you tried it.

    I am pretty sure you can reseat without having to remove the whole motherboard with push-pin heatsinks?
    I hope not

    Yeh I may need to reseat it i guess, but with pushpins its impossible to fit with the motherboard installed, no space for moving around for starters.

    I have AC MX-2 and arcticlean, will they suffice? do i need to spread it out with a card, or just do what you said and maybe it'll spread by itself?

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    Re: high idle temps

    Quote Originally Posted by ace_87 View Post
    I was experiencing similar problems not too long ago with my idle temps reaching about 44 with a scythe ninja on a e6300!

    Now my temps idle at 31 which I am quite happy with (even in the hot days never goes above 34 )

    Heres what I did, hopefully it could be of some help:

    1) Removed the motherboard and re-applied the paste on the CPU (just left a blob in the center, but with quads i think its different)

    2) Attached the heatsink (which was the problem in the first place) and made sure it was properly connected i.e made sure the push pins came through the other side of the mobo and made sure the heatsink didnt move and had a flush connection with the cpu

    3) Put everything back in its place and made sure there was no cables/wires distracting the case's airflow (can make quite a difference)

    This was pretty much the procedure i did till i got it right and was happy with the idle temps. In my case it was the way i applied the paste and also the heatsink connection which caused my high idle temps in the first place.

    Hope this helps
    Hey thanks for that, looks like ill have to do that, i added more fans to the case and improved on cable tidy, but that didnt make any differnce,

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    Re: high idle temps

    Quote Originally Posted by looney View Post
    Sorry should of made it clear, thats the range of the cores, at the moment core 1 and 2 are at 43 degress, they always stay the same to each other, and the other two 3 and four are 39 and 37.
    Well that does sound like the HSF seating or paste might be the problem. There's usually some difference between the cores, but not that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by looney View Post
    Hey thanks for that, looks like ill have to do that, i added more fans to the case and improved on cable tidy, but that didnt make any differnce,
    No probs bud, your problem is most likely related to the paste or HSF placement. Re-seat it again with new paste and you should be alright

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