need help... still reaching 60-67 degrees temp!

[peterb]

ok.

think what you want.
you win.

It isn't a question of winning or losing - its a question of establishing the correct facts! BTW - when you quoted me, the links weren't showing - I have amended it so they do, so you can check the facts for yourself - you don't have to take my word for them!

The link takes you rto an area where you can download the relevant specification which describes the thermal throttling process in depth, and gives the thermal parameters of the CPU.

[Thorsson]

...it seems he really has a chip on his shoulder about Intel

Apun my word!

BTW the writer of Real Temp has spent a lot of effort looking into this. He found on one chip that the difference between TJMax and shutoff temp was 25C, although allegedly it can be as low as 15C. TJMax is typically 85C-105C and this is where throttling occurs. For Q6600 G0 it appears to usually be 95C.

It's certain that mine doesn't throttle at 75C, which is as hot as I've had it.

[looney]

Is 60-67c your idle or load temps?

If its load temp, i wouldnt worry on a stock cooler.

[kietsmark1975]

As other have said, the temps are fine - the problem lies elswhere in the system, either misconfiguration or a faulty component. RAM would be the first thing to test. Use memtest 86+ Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool

tnx. i tested my RAM on MemTest and it's great! no errors at 500+% (testing all unused RAM). How much percentage shld. i need to test it? coz' i am just using the basic memtest and i don't know what shld. i type for it to test. that's why i left it as it is and do the test.

additional info... i already tested my VGA also via VMT stress test and it doesn't found any error either. i like to test my MOBO but i don't know what software shld. i use... is there any app for that?

[kietsmark1975]

Is 60-67c your idle or load temps?

If its load temp, i wouldnt worry on a stock cooler.

it's load temps... running blend stress test on orthos.

[kietsmark1975]

Apun my word!

BTW the writer of Real Temp has spent a lot of effort looking into this. He found on one chip that the difference between TJMax and shutoff temp was 25C, although allegedly it can be as low as 15C. TJMax is typically 85C-105C and this is where throttling occurs. For Q6600 G0 it appears to usually be 95C.

It's certain that mine doesn't throttle at 75C, which is as hot as I've had it.

great! does these facts mean my temps are fine? but why everytime i try to play cyrsis it freeze? it's very unfortunate coz' i love to play that game and play it on my system's maximum performance (high settings it is!)

[kietsmark1975]

if the cpu is freezing its allready by the stage of throttling.
there is not enought contact between the cpu & hsf.
i would get a new coole

i doubt it though... that the CPU & HSF doesn't have enough contact... i am beginning to have a conclusion that it is pretty normal for a quad to have those temps reading. i guess it's a must for any quad system to put after market cooling fan... i'd rather choose Zalman for me but unfortunately it's not available in Qatar. and all the shops i've visited doesn't know what is zalman is! what a shame!

[Thorsson]

Presuming that your temps, even if a bit high, are OK (and Crysis is not going to stress them like Orthos) and Memtest says your memory is fine, then the GPU is the next stop. Did you try running another game or better still 3dMark06? How long does it play in Crysis before freezing? When you say freeze, does anything odd happen with the sound? Do you have to do a reset?

[Agent]

i dont want banned again agent.

am trying to tell them something thats right & is the truth.
email intel tec support plz.
i got a response from them within 2 hours.
am sorry if you feel this way about me. i just know the script.

No. You're wrong, its really that simple.
It doesn't matter how much you dress it up - You're wrong.

I don't need to email Intel, I deal with semiconductors daily. Me along with a huge number of people here have a minimum of degree in the field. This is _basic_ stuff, and I will not allow you start telling others they are wrong on the very basics of building a computer.

Soul Edge - to give you the benefit of the doubt, you may have made a typo - but 38C is hunman body temperature - it isn't even warm in semi-conductor terms. If you meant to type 88C. that would be nearer the mark, but if Intel or any other processor started throttling at that low temperature, no computer would ever run at its full potential!

PeterB is correct, again.
If you want to disagree with him or anyone else on the forum - fine. But if you can't backup your comments with little more than...

its a fact.
i dont care what you think,
i know the facts.

You're not only going to get laughed at, but I will personally remove your access here.

I don't mean to come across as harsh here but two things are coming to mind:
1) Bad advice is worse than no advice. If you can not back-up what you're saying, don't say it.
2) You are being rude. Simply commenting that "i dont care what you think, i know the facts." is borderline trolling in my eyes

Me or any of the other mods do not have time to go chasing and correcting plainly wrong posts that you may make. Not only that, but you're going to start annoying a lot of the long term members who do know their stuff and have to spend their time correcting you, when it could be better spent actually helping with peoples questions.

Now we are a friendly bunch mate. Really, we are But lets make this clear: I am not going to let you start peddling bad advice and annoying the members that know their stuff with your lack of understanding.
If you want to stick around and learn - cool, that's what the forums are for We all have to start somewhere, but please - lay off on talking about what you obviously have no understanding of.

Cheers

[shadowmaster]

Presuming that your temps, even if a bit high, are OK (and Crysis is not going to stress them like Orthos) and Memtest says your memory is fine, then the GPU is the next stop.

Agree, try some other games. If you want to stress your gfx card download ATI tools and do a 'scan for artifacts'. You will find that it will increase your gfx temp quite a bit, but then it should level off.

ATi Tool 0.27 b2 download from Guru3D.com

Or alternatively download the crysis benchmark software and run it on 20 loops with high settings, and see what happens.

Crysis Benchmark Tool 1.05 Final download from Guru3D.com

TBH your cpu temps are a slightly on the high side but they would not cause your system to become crash. My bets on the gfx card as 8800GT's are known to get quite hot and sometimes that can cause problems.

[kietsmark1975]

Presuming that your temps, even if a bit high, are OK (and Crysis is not going to stress them like Orthos) and Memtest says your memory is fine, then the GPU is the next stop. Did you try running another game or better still 3dMark06? How long does it play in Crysis before freezing? When you say freeze, does anything odd happen with the sound? Do you have to do a reset?

tnx... i will try hellgate to see if it freeze. unfortunately i don't have 3dmark06.
i played crysis for about 5 minutes, actually it freezes even on the intro movie. the sounds are fine... even if it freezes it continues to play and i don't have to reset but i am very confused coz' my graphic settings is only medium and i don't want to use low settings coz' it doesn't make sense to have quad if i can't maximize it's full value. hope you get what i mean.

[kietsmark1975]

Crysis Benchmark Tool 1.05 Final download from Guru3D.com
TBH your cpu temps are a slightly on the high side but they would not cause your system to become crash. My bets on the gfx card as 8800GT's are known to get quite hot and sometimes that can cause problems.

great! thanks for the link!
i tried VMT stress test and it says no error either on my card. i tested it with the default VMT settings (low resolution). about the temp i am getting, i guess your right... the card gets too hot and it becomes very noisy during crysis playtime. i google it up to find others opinion and i found out that it is pretty normal on any 8800GT card. tsk tsk tsk... but anyhow... i'll try to play hellgate and see what happens next. wish me luck...

[Thorsson]

Futuremark - Download - 3DMark06

This doesn't have any video cutscenes, just game-type sections, the last of which stress the CPU. I'm wondering whether it's the video sections that are the problem...

[kietsmark1975]

Futuremark - Download - 3DMark06

This doesn't have any video cutscenes, just game-type sections, the last of which stress the CPU. I'm wondering whether it's the video sections that are the problem...

thanks man! downloading!

[kietsmark1975]

Crysis Benchmark Tool 1.05 Final download from Guru3D.com

crysis benchmark... looks fine... is the result COOL? i mean is it below average for a quad?

[shadowmaster]

Its about correct , I think. You were able to run 21 loops so I would say your gfx card is fine.

Run it on 3 loops, on 1280*1024 with no AA, but everything high.