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    Re: "It even comes with a password lock utility to secure stored data and prevent una

    I would tell you how to do it, but I believe that porn should be free and accessible for everyone

    Only kidding I don't know how to do it, but I'll stop spamming your thread now...

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    Re: "It even comes with a password lock utility to secure stored data and prevent una

    There is commercial software that does this, but it looks dodgy...

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    Re: "It even comes with a password lock utility to secure stored data and prevent una

    This would be well easy to crack, but it looks like what you are after

    and some more commercial software here (this one looks less dodgy)

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    Re: "It even comes with a password lock utility to secure stored data and prevent una

    Quote Originally Posted by Marcos View Post
    ah right, well uhh, lets say it is porn, nothing financial or important, no need for encryption, not the end of the world if it gets found, BUT i'd like a simple password entry into the drive.

    I dont know anyone savvy enough to want to crack through any password screen and if they did manage it then they deserve to see the contents


    am i being too honest?

    If it uses the method I suggested (sending an ATA lock disk command) you don't need to crack the password - just use a utility that sends the unlock command to the disk. The password is only protecting access to th especific utility.

    Of course, it might be more sophisticated than that... (but I doubt it - to password prortect the disk, the protection method would have to be built into the drive's onboard controller)

    I doubt that any of the folder protection utilities would offer any protection against examination with a disk editor, as they act on the filesystem, not the disk.
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    Re: "It even comes with a password lock utility to secure stored data and prevent una

    Quote Originally Posted by Marcos View Post
    "It even comes with a password lock utility to secure stored data and prevent unauthorised access."

    Buy Fujitsu MMD2160UB 160GB USB2 Handydrive MMD2160UB from CCL - Online Retailer of the Year 2007 & 2006 for laptops, desktops and computer hardware

    This portable drive comes with some sort fo software that prompts for a password, is that kind of thing available free separately?

    I dont need any sort of encryption, i just literally need a password prompt when you first plug in the drive.
    There'd be no point having a 'password prompt' without the encryption. It'd be like bricking up the doors to your house to stop people seeing your kinky porn stash you have sitting right in front of the windows (which are wide open) with no curtains. The encryption is probably 'mostly' transparent, it's the done thing these days, so it's not going to get in your way, usability wise.
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    Re: "It even comes with a password lock utility to secure stored data and prevent una

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    If it uses the method I suggested (sending an ATA lock disk command) you don't need to crack the password - just use a utility that sends the unlock command to the disk. The password is only protecting access to th especific utility.
    Or a patch to do it on the fly.
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    Re: "It even comes with a password lock utility to secure stored data and prevent una

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    There'd be no point having a 'password prompt' without the encryption. It'd be like bricking up the doors to your house to stop people seeing your kinky porn stash you have sitting right in front of the windows (which are wide open) with no curtains. The encryption is probably 'mostly' transparent, it's the done thing these days, so it's not going to get in your way, usability wise.
    but what would it honestly take to crack that "password prompt"? because im the most computery person i know and i dont know how to do it yet so im not worried about other people getting around it.


    I know what you're saying about it not being secure in any way, but i dont need it to be secure, i just need it to keep this drive from being plugged into any PC and the files being shown immediately. Just something there that acts as a barrier/deterrent

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    Re: "It even comes with a password lock utility to secure stored data and prevent una

    It would take 3 steps:

    1) Type `mount /dev/uba /mnt'.
    2) Open Kaffeine.
    3) Enjoy porn collection.
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    Re: "It even comes with a password lock utility to secure stored data and prevent una

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    It would take 3 steps:

    1) Type `mount /dev/uba /mnt'.
    2) Open Kaffeine.
    3) Enjoy porn collection.
    yeah see, i dont know what that is, and no one i know would know what that is and what to do with it, so thats secure enough.


    and this is talking about the ATA lock thing?

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    Re: "It even comes with a password lock utility to secure stored data and prevent una

    Quote Originally Posted by Jefftuk View Post
    nice, looks good
    you lost me

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    Re: "It even comes with a password lock utility to secure stored data and prevent una

    yes but aidanjt if the people he's trying to stop getting access are completely illiterate (ie going to be foiled by the external HDD power been switched off) then a simple prompt is overkill.

    Just like using a file system permissioning would be.

    Encryption whilst there are many easy options, add all sorts of headaches, and performance hit which if you don't need, you don't need!

    Its more like putting a sign on the door saying beware of the leopard if thats enough, its enough.
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    Re: "It even comes with a password lock utility to secure stored data and prevent una

    I wouldn't worry about ATA locks, it's the most useless and never-used feature in the history of computing.
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    Re: "It even comes with a password lock utility to secure stored data and prevent una

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    yes but aidanjt if the people he's trying to stop getting access are completely illiterate (ie going to be foiled by the external HDD power been switched off) then a simple prompt is overkill.

    Just like using a file system permissioning would be.

    Encryption whilst there are many easy options, add all sorts of headaches, and performance hit which if you don't need, you don't need!

    Its more like putting a sign on the door saying beware of the leopard if thats enough, its enough.
    I doubt there'd be any considerable performance hit, the disk would be slower than the ciphering abilities of most modern CPUs unless the cipher algo is utter cack (it probably is just to spite me). Although I agree with everything else. But, given the option between pretend safe, and actually safe, I'd pick the latter, even if the data isn't important/sensitive and people who could pick it up are likely the sort who'd try to figure out how to plug it into their iPuddle.
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    Re: "It even comes with a password lock utility to secure stored data and prevent una

    ATA Security Locks are very safe, as most require forensic ability to bypass. The thing is i thought you couldn't send the commands at the OS level, because the BIOS sends that special command Freeze Lock to the HDD.

    even something mundane like NTFS permissioning is beyound most people to know how to take ownership (even in windows!).

    Encyrption isn't without problems, its a sure fire way to have big issues if you've got dud memory, or just a slightly dodgy connection. As this porn stash is effectivly a backup, i don't like the idea of encyrpting it needlessly.
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    Re: "It even comes with a password lock utility to secure stored data and prevent una

    ATA lock == fail, changing the interface board will do it as well. Any OS can and (for the love of sanity) should ignore the BIOS.
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    Re: "It even comes with a password lock utility to secure stored data and prevent una

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    I wouldn't worry about ATA locks, it's the most useless and never-used feature in the history of computing.
    so what were you referring to when you said "password prompt"?

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