Seagate 7200.11 ST3640323AS anywhere in the UK yet?

[rs4847]

Hi guys,

Was going to get a couple of WD WD6400AAKS, but would rather wait and see if Seagate's ST3640323AS is any good, I know the single platter ST3320613AS is very good and quiet.

Just wondering if anyone seen them on pre-order or retail anywhere so I can get some idea of prices.

Don't have VelociRaptor money.

Thanks.

[arthurleung]

There is nothing wrong with the WD6400AAKS, unless you want that 5 years warranty so badly, just get the WD6400AAKS. It is gonna be more quiet than the Seagate (partly due to AAM). Since platter size is the same (320GB) performance will be more or less identical.

If you want real quiet drive go for the WD Greenpower drives

[Blitzen]

If its quietness you are after then the Samsung drives are the quietest (apparently).

I went for a couple of 500GB Spinpoints and they are inaudible.

[rs4847]

Thanks guys!

Noise isn't really that important as I suspect any drives will be silent compared to my current Seagate Cheetah X15-36LP boot drive, which I will not be taking over to my new rig.

Speed is very important, this is why I have been looking at 300+GB platter drives.

Warranty is important, longer the better as I tend to keep drives in use 3+ years.

Not sure if the extra 16mb of cache will make a bit of difference on the ST3640323AS tbh.

Reliability is also important, which is why I haven't looked at the Samsung 320+gb platter drives, too many bad reports.

[looney]

^ i have the 13as, and have to say was slightly dissappointed either thar or i was expecting too much!

It just seems so sluggish for some reason, boot up time aint no different to my 4 year old maxtor for starters, but scores ok on hdtune, 194meg burst speed, but seek time is slow 19sec

its also 300gig and not 320, due to the way software transalates memory

[rs4847]

^ i have the 13as, and have to say was slightly dissappointed either thar or i was expecting too much!

It just seems so sluggish for some reason, boot up time aint no different to my 4 year old maxtor for starters, but scores ok on hdtune, 194meg burst speed, but seek time is slow 19sec

its also 300gig and not 320, due to the way software transalates memory

Strange, are you just running a single drive? Is it configured as ACHI or normal SATA? Do you have a good SATA cable?

Time is against me so I've ordered 4x WD6400AAKS, I hope they do not still dropout of RAID like some of the older non RE (and even some RE) WD drives.

I am planing on running a pair in RAID1 (boot/important data) and the other two as independent drives on a ICH9-R controller.

[looney]

^ yep its a single drive and its running in ide mode, no settings for sata, but this is normal apparently, and i would expect the sata cables to be good as there from gigabyte, no idea why it feels sluggish, i bought this cos it was a single platter and thought it would be fast and saw a good beckhmark score on another thread, buts im slightly disaapointed

[shadowcreaper]

which is better to go for then.

either a barracuda 500gb 7,200 32mb OR

samsung 500GB spindpoint F1 500gb 12 mb hard drive?

i tempted by barracuda one sinse high MB, but at someone said samsung supposed to be VERY queit

[looney]

which is better to go for then.

either a barracuda 500gb 7,200 32mb OR

samsung 500GB spindpoint F1 500gb 12 mb hard drive?

i tempted by barracuda one sinse high MB, but at someone said samsung supposed to be VERY queit

the seagate , my drive isnt even audible, extremely queit, and seagate are a better brand, i personally do not like samsung cos of numerous past experiences..

[Blitzen]

the seagate , my drive isnt even audible, extremely queit, and seagate are a better brand, i personally do not like samsung cos of numerous past experiences..

Nearly all drives are quiet now.

BTW...Samsung, if required, has the best RMA in business

[arthurleung]

Nearly all drives are quiet now.

BTW...Samsung, if required, has the best RMA in business

I haven't tried Samsung RMA yet, but RMA for Seagate is very good too.
Haven't RMA a WD drive in ages but their turnaround time used to be good too.

I personally still avoid Samsung drives as reliability (in particular the 1TB drive) is a bit of hit-and-miss judging from posts on multiple forums around the world.

The sound issue is an interesting one for me.
I got a new Inspiron from Dell which have exactly the same drive I got in my WD passport AND my old laptop (All 250GB). The one from Dell is silk smooth, no noise nor vibration. The one in my WD passport vibrates slightly and noise is still ok. The one in my old laptop however, vibrates very strongly (for a 2.5" drive) and the noise is noticable.

[rs4847]

^ yep its a single drive and its running in ide mode, no settings for sata, but this is normal apparently, and i would expect the sata cables to be good as there from gigabyte, no idea why it feels sluggish, i bought this cos it was a single platter and thought it would be fast and saw a good beckhmark score on another thread, buts im slightly disaapointed

If it's running in IDE emulation mode it must mean AHCI and NCQ are disabled, having said this NCQ performance on the ICH9R is far from steller. Bundled cables are usually rubbish from my experience.

I haven't tried Samsung RMA yet, but RMA for Seagate is very good too.
Haven't RMA a WD drive in ages but their turnaround time used to be good too.

I personally still avoid Samsung drives as reliability (in particular the 1TB drive) is a bit of hit-and-miss judging from posts on multiple forums around the world.

I've had multiple faulty WD drives, I have a couple of WD1200JD's that had been back to Germany twice, though the current replacements have been fine for over 2 years. Also have a WD200BB doorstop. I am glad WD now have a UK RMA address, think all of them now have a UK RMA address apart from Hitachi and it will be a cold day in hell before I'll ever buy another deathstar. The reports on Samsung also concerns me, but I've had first hand experience with them in Dell's, so no thanks for now.

[rs4847]

Well I must of been tempting fate as one of my new WD6400AAKS has failed DLGDIAG with error code 0007 - read element failure on a quick test, I am running an extended test on it atm.

I usually RMA direct with WD, however I don't really want a replacement drive with recertified/refurbished on the labels. So looks like it's going back to the retailer. It is the second tested out of four, so hope the other two test okay.

EDIT: Extended test finished, error code 0226 sector relocation error. Time to raise an RMA.

[Pablo1870]

If you are looking for a new harddrive, you really need to read this thread over at storagereview.

Ncq works so poorly on most hardrives in windows os except for the 7200.11's.

here is the link, - I have a WD 640AAks, and i think i now regret buying it. I may just returnit for the samsung range. I don't know about the new seagate mention by the op, but take a looks anyway:

http://forums.storagereview.net/inde...howtopic=26965

Pablo1870

[looney]

if the 640gb segate uses the platters from 13as, i expect it to be very good