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    Really need help choosing PC, please please!

    I could do with a bit of advice please! I've just been given a couple of specs for new PC from a local computer company.

    Other bits and bobs, 19" monitors, keyboard, mouse,speakers, sub woofer etc are included in the price - the two in question are as follows:

    Advance AM2 Dual Core upgrade 3 Asus M/Board
    200 GB Spinpoint HD200HJ SATA 8Mb Cache Hard Drive
    Asus GeForce 8500 GT 512Mb PCI-E(x16) silent GDDR2 HDTV/Dual DVI Graphics Card
    3 GB Ram
    XP Home Edition
    £510

    Asus M/Board + Q6600 Core 2 Quad CPU
    1000GB Samsung HD103UJ Spinpoint F1 SATA II 7200 rpm 32MbCache
    BFG GeForce 256Mb 8600 GT OverClocked PCI-E(16x) Mem 1400Mhz GPU 565MHz GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI Graphics
    4Gb DDR2 PC2 (2 x 2Gb KIT REAPER 240pin)
    Windows Vista Home Basic
    £650

    I want something that I can use as home office and can sneakily run games on comfortably,eg online roleplay type things like Second Life.

    I notice the cheaper PC has 512Mb (Asus GeForce 8500) and the more expensice PC has 256Mb graphics card (BFG geForce 8600), although this is meant to be the high spec'd machine. i would have expected the more expensive card to have the higher Mb? Any comments on this? (I know bugger all about graphics cards) Are any of these cards sufficient?

    Which would you go for? (or would you not go for either?) I'm looking for a home office pc thats more than capable of playing a game, music, surfing etc at the same time as working. I'm a bugger for having a game and a zillion programmes open at the same time does that help with what I need? I like to play Second Life and possibly have Photoshop running in the background, MSN and Yahoo Messenger, Yahoo and a quite a few IE pages open as well. Yeh I'm a terribly sad multitasker, should be working but like to flick backwards and forwards between apps, chat and play.

    Basically the chap that supplied the quote is able to build a machine to spec, the quotes he came up with were suggestions to what I said I needed in a machine so is pretty flexible I guess as to what to put in it.

    Would you recommend a Dual core over a Quad?
    Vista Premium over XP (I heard vista basic is pants)
    What graphics card would be sufficient to play say, [B]Second Life and do the multitasking as mentioned above?

    If I went to him with a suggested spec it would be good start I think. Would you suggest an alteration or two to one of the specs he suggested? Price is an issue, my husbands paying for the PC so I need to get it as cost effective as possible but also I'd like it to be fast and capable of multitasking! I dont want to go over £600, as much as possible under that and it would be fabulous!! (to include monitor and other gubbins)

    Someone recommeded an E8400 over the Q6600 but I dont know anything! Are the recommended graphics cards any good? Help please I'm so baffled!!

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    Re: Really need help choosing PC, please please!

    Neither is great to be honest. I'm guessing this is not a situation where you would consider building it yourself?

    The second one with the quad is what I would go with, the 8600GT is OK for gaming, it will certainly handle the sort of thing you have mentioned.

    make sure this company are no skimping where it matters though, power supplies etc.. Personally in your situation I would buy a dell.

    EDIT:

    Just for a start (prices are exVAT) but something like this can be configured quite nicely inside your budget

    Comes to £615 with a 22" monitor and ATi 2600XT which is around the same as the 8600GT.
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    • Eddd's system
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      • Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L iP35 Express
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      • Memory:
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      • Case:
      • Antec 900 - All fans on low
      • Monitor(s):
      • 22" Daewoo, 5ms response time
      • Internet:
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    Re: Really need help choosing PC, please please!

    CPU = Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 SLACR, Kentsfield Core, Socket 775, 2.40 GHz 1066MHz 8MB Cache, Retail - £134.73
    Motherboard = Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L, iP35 Express, S 775, PCI-E (x16), DDR2 1066/667/800, SATA II, ATX - £56.27
    Memory (RAM) = 4GB (2x2GB) Corsair TwinX XMS2, DDR2 PC2-6400 (800), 240 Pins, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 5-5-5-18 - £57.15
    Graphics Card = 512MB Gainward 8800GTS, Bliss, PCI-E 2.0, Mem 1940MHz, GDDR3, GPU 650MHz, Streams 128, 2x DL DVI-I - £151.56
    PSU = 450W Corsair VX Series PSU, ATX, PS/2, UK Version, 80 PLUS® certified - £44.05
    Harddrive = 160 GB Western Digital WD1600AAJS Caviar SE, SATA II, 7200 rpm, 8MB Cache, 9 ms - £29.36
    It totals £473.13 on scan.co.uk - but this is not including a case, monitor, speakers, keyboard or mouse. So you have about £130 to spend on those (which will be quite tighy!) but it's a nice system. If I were you, I'd just build it myself (it's alot easier than you'd think) and he will without a doubt charge a building fee!

    EDIT: I haven't included an Operating Sytem, doh! If you want to stick within your £600 budget, I'd downgrade the 8800GTS to the 8600GT like mike said, downgrade the 4GB RAM to 2GB and consider whether you need 160GB of space?

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    Re: Really need help choosing PC, please please!

    Thanks guys...

    The complete details on the second quote are...:
    Asus M/Board + Q6600 Core 2 Quad CPU
    1000GB Samsung HD103UJ Spinpoint F1 SATA II 7200 rpm 32MbCache
    BFG GeForce 256Mb 8600 GT OverClocked PCI-E(16x) Mem 1400Mhz GPU 565MHz GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI Graphics
    Pioneer DVR-212 18X DVD+/- RW Dual Layer DVD Writer Black OEM
    OCZ 4Gb DDR2 PC2 6400 800Mhz (2 x 2Gb KIT REAPER 240pin)
    Logitech S220 2.1 speakers with subwoofer
    Trust media connect bay CR-3400
    Belkin wireless keyboard and optical mouse
    19in Hanns-GHW191DP Widescreen Silver/Black multimedia 5ms DVI TFT Monitor
    Windows Vista Home Basic 64bit Edition (I presume this should be either XP or Vista premium?)


    Ive figured out that he's buying the bits from advancetec.co.uk but I have no idea what FAN/PSU or Case is being supplied from there. He charges £50 for building and doesnt seem to be putting anything onto the cost of the components so thats good isnt it?

    I'm not able to build it myself, its a time issue more than anything so I dont mind paying the building fee...

    I'm so lost - just want to get the right components as I want it to last 2-3 yrs!!!

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    • Eddd's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L iP35 Express
      • CPU:
      • Intel Q6600 G0 SLACR @ 3.0GHz with Scythe Ninja
      • Memory:
      • 4GB (2x2GB) Corsair TwinX XMS2, DDR2 PC2-6400 (800)
      • Storage:
      • 250GB Western Digital - SATA II & 120GB Maxtor - IDE
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Gainward Bliss 8800GTS 512MB
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX520 Modular
      • Case:
      • Antec 900 - All fans on low
      • Monitor(s):
      • 22" Daewoo, 5ms response time
      • Internet:
      • Wireless - 2mb. Very slow

    Re: Really need help choosing PC, please please!

    If you're planning on doing word documents, surfing and light gaming do you really need a 1000GB harddrive. 200GB would probably be sufficient?

    Quote Originally Posted by n00dles View Post
    Windows Vista Home Basic 64bit Edition (I presume this should be either XP or Vista premium?)
    Definitely do not buy XP at this time/stage, it's not worth it - games, components and software are now all being designed for Vista so buying XP now is just pure stupid. Windows Vista Home Primium is only about £10 more, so I'm sure you can ask him to upgrade to that for you.

    Use this to compare the different Vista editions.

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    Re: Really need help choosing PC, please please!

    Aaah actually he did mention i could have a 200Gb HD if that was far too much than needed...should save me a few pennies? Would you say that the processor, graphics card and 4Gb ram is okay on that spec?

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    Re: Really need help choosing PC, please please!

    That looks nice to me. If you want to do some gaming now or in the near future though (depending on what games of course), you may want to update that graphics card.

    Edit - see if you can get a smaller hard drive to say £££ as ed suggests and there is little reason to get home basic, when you can get home premium (I wasn't aware you could even buy home basic anymore from most places).

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    Re: Really need help choosing PC, please please!

    They are as good as you will do on that budget without building yourself I'd imagine.

    Personally I'd take XP over Vista basic but each to their own. Vista will be replaced by windows 7 sooner rather than later and I serverly doubt it will be as strongly held on to as XP was (is).

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    Re: Really need help choosing PC, please please!

    Quote Originally Posted by n00dles View Post
    Aaah actually he did mention i could have a 200Gb HD if that was far too much than needed...should save me a few pennies? Would you say that the processor, graphics card and 4Gb ram is okay on that spec?
    CPU & RAM you can't go wrong with. If you're only going to be using a 19" monitor and a bit of light gaming the 8600GT should be fine.

    My main two concerns about that system is what is the PSU and "Asus M/Board" is not very specif - there are hundreds of Asus motherboards. Which one?

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    Re: Really need help choosing PC, please please!

    I only really play second life game wise if that helps

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    Re: Really need help choosing PC, please please!

    Quote Originally Posted by staffsMike View Post
    They are as good as you will do on that budget without building yourself I'd imagine.

    Personally I'd take XP over Vista basic but each to their own. Vista will be replaced by windows 7 sooner rather than later and I serverly doubt it will be as strongly held on to as XP was (is).
    I see the point you are making, but windows 7 is far off. at least 3 years, maybe 4.. 5?

    I personally don't see the point in getting older hardware when there are newer alternatives with what will be more continued support and drivers. Take the 8800GT vs the 9600GT as an example (personal preference, mind). Sorry if I'm sending this off topic..

    Edit - When I said hardware, I am aware windows is software. *grin*

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    Re: Really need help choosing PC, please please!

    On topic - that looks like a mighty fine rig you got their. Congrats.

    Off topic - I wouldn't pay anything for Vista. It still won't run half the apps I se day to day and doesn't really give you anything extra besides a fancy user interface and Direct X10 which is not a huge increase over Dx 9.

    To sum up, maybe by Windows 7 Launch, Vista will finally be free of flaws. But thats how it goes right?

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    Re: Really need help choosing PC, please please!

    Thanks guys...so how about above spec...


    Asus M/Board + Q6600 Core 2 Quad CPU
    1000GB Samsung HD103UJ Spinpoint F1 SATA II 7200 rpm 32MbCache
    BFG GeForce 256Mb 8600 GT OverClocked PCI-E(16x) Mem 1400Mhz GPU 565MHz GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI Graphics
    Pioneer DVR-212 18X DVD+/- RW Dual Layer DVD Writer Black OEM
    OCZ 4Gb DDR2 PC2 6400 800Mhz (2 x 2Gb KIT REAPER 240pin)
    Logitech S220 2.1 speakers with subwoofer
    Trust media connect bay CR-3400
    Belkin wireless keyboard and optical mouse
    19in Hanns-GHW191DP Widescreen Silver/Black multimedia 5ms DVI TFT Monitor
    Windows Vista Home Basic 64bit Edition (I presume this should be either XP or Vista premium?)

    BUT change graphics card to BFG GeForce 9600 GT OC 512MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) as seen on overclockers for £103

    and ask to upgrade to Vista Premium

    and downgrade to a 200Gb Hard drive

    Should this mean much of a price difference do you think?

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    Re: Really need help choosing PC, please please!

    hard drive will save around £65.

    Graphics will cost around £60 more. Premium is about £5 more for an OEM copy so.. should be the same price I guess.

    That said you don't need the graphics upgrade, the 8600GT is far more capable at basic gaming than people give it credit for.

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    Re: Really need help choosing PC, please please!

    even at 256Mb?

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    Re: Really need help choosing PC, please please!

    Quote Originally Posted by n00dles View Post
    even at 256Mb?
    yep.

    The dell vostro with the laptop 8600GT 256mb can run all the most recent games with decent levels of detail at 1440 x 900 (your monitors resolution).

    The desktop version is far better of course.

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