Advice on new build

[ikix]

My current computer is starting to hit some pretty big and annoying walls and I have decided it is the time to upgrade to something better, I have asked questions on here over time and looked through stuff and hopefully this rig will be whats needed.

Intel Q6600 link
Antec P182 link
Thermalright Ultra-120-Extreme link
4GB Corsair TwinX XMS2, DDR2 PC2-6400 link
Abit IP-35 Pro link
Corsair HX620 link
640GB Western Digital AAKS link
24" HyundaiIT W240D link
120mm Noctua NF-P12 (to go onto the CPU heatsink) link
120mm Noctua NF-S12 1200 (x4 for the case) link
Logitech Desktop MX 3200 Cordless Keyboard Desktop Combination link
Arctic Silver 5 link

On top of that I am hoping to chuck on a GTX 280 or a HD4870. (with these being PCI-E 2.0 should i probably get a different motherboard?)

All that (excluding the GPU) comes to about £1,108 inc. shipping

From my old rig I am going to be carrying across 2 SATA hard drives (one 320GB and another 160GB) which will mainly be used for storage.

Uses:
I will be overclocking the CPU (not sure about the GPU as they're not even out yet)
The rig is mainly intended for gaming and will be heavily used
On rare occasions i do some video/image editing but this is rare
General use (i.e. internet, word processing)

Are there any suggestions you can make to improve this or point out anything horribly wrong, my budget is somewhat extendable (about £450ish tucked away for GPU so no need to worry with that in the budget concerns) and the sound system is the following link which will be connected with an optical cable.

Thx

[staffsMike]

I would deffinatly give the stock fans a shot before you stick £50 on fans, you can always get them later (negating all my hard work earlier ).

If you are serious about changing the fans from stock I would get these
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/...cat=885&page=1

and the yate loon's they are based on are even cheaper
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/...cat=885&page=2

It's what SPCR use on their builds and tbh their couldn't be a greater endorsment than that imo

This is the conclusion to their 120mm fan roundup
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article695-page6.html

Naming the noctua the best but only by a very slight margin and they are twice the price..

The tricool's get a mention to

[chadders]

For fan mounting on the "Thermalright Ultra-120-Extreme" does the OP need to get the fan clips also?

Only asking as I was looking at that the other day, whilst it says it comes with the bolt-thru kit but no fan, they are listed on Scan seperately.

[ikix]

Hmm, cheers for pointing those things out guys, will have a lookse.

[moogle]

For fan mounting on the "Thermalright Ultra-120-Extreme" does the OP need to get the fan clips also?

Only asking as I was looking at that the other day, whilst it says it comes with the bolt-thru kit but no fan, they are listed on Scan seperately.

bolt thru kit is for ultra 120A which doesn't natively mount on am2 sockets. it always comes with fan clips dont worry
Unless they state so all of the thermalright heatsinks have those fan clips.

To the OP I'd say dump the AS5 and go for the MX-2, it's a bigger tube and seems to cool better.



The temps before with AS5 was 20C-24C on the main core. No need to "break in" the paste like AS5 either.

Here's a link

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=353109

You can see in my pic below the difference in sizes..



Won't be buying AS5 anymore

[Noxvayl]

Yeah I like the MX-2, lasts long which I need as I tend to waste a lot...

Other than that everything looks good

[Blitzen]

Problem with MX-5 is that it acts more like cement rather than thermal compound. The HSF tens to stick to the CPU far more than when using AS5.

I agree that MX5 is very good, i just dont like the aspect of reapplying it.

[ikix]

Cheers for the help guys, would it be beneficial to upgrade the motherboard to one that supports PCI-e 2.0 since the GTX 280/HD4870 will support this.

[Noxvayl]

Cheers for the help guys, would it be beneficial to upgrade the motherboard to one that supports PCI-e 2.0 since the GTX 280/HD4870 will support this.

Current GFX cards(9800GTX and HD3870) support PCI-E 2.0. Its really just an improvement in power supply the slot gives and bandwidth offered to the graphics card. I'd say that using the HD4870 with its new high bandwidth GDDR5 memory could bring benefits with PCI-E 2.0 but its all just speculation tbh. At the moment there really isn't that much benefit, I didn't notice much change from PCI-E to PCI-E 2.0 with my 8800GTS(which supports PCI-E 2.0) but that doesn't mean it couldn't prove beneficial in the future.

Its only really £30 more for the Abit Quad GT X38 so its not that much of a leap for the piece of mind, you no just in case PCI-E 2.0 does turn out to be beneficial I got the X38 over the P35 for that same reason tbh, hasn't turned out to be beneficial yet but you never know...

[ikix]

Thx exhail, i suppose £30 isn't too much of a hit for the piece of mind and the potential benefits it could bring if the new cards utilise it, especially if a £350 card is not at its full because of a £30 difference in mobo.

[staffsMike]

I doubt the new cards require the bandwidth of PCI.e 2.0. I'd get P45 over X38 if you do feel it's necersary.

[Noxvayl]

Forgot about the P45 boards although they seem to be slow getting to the e-tailers. Plus I'm a bit sceptic about Asus and the other option, Gigabyte (my favourite ), is a bit expensive to warrant a recommendation tbh.

I've just had too many troubles with Asus to be comfortable recommending their boards.

[staffsMike]

Although I hate their service the boards have always been very good for me from Asus. Very much like my P5B and M2A-vm which are the most modern one's I have from them.

P5Q's look ok. There's one around £100 which isn't too bad I guess but I think I'd stick to P35 anyway.

[ikix]

Does anyone have experience with the P5Q deluxe? Is the 45 chipset any good/better than the x38?

[Blitzen]

P35/P45/X38 all much the sameness.

The X38's offers a bit more than both the P35/P45. Especially a FSB1600 which neither do i think. (corect em if im wrong which i may be).

[Noxvayl]

P35/P45/X38 all much the sameness.

The X38's offers a bit more than both the P35/P45. Especially a FSB1600 which neither do i think. (corect em if im wrong which i may be).

The P35 doesn't support the 1600FSB your right there but the P45 does as well as the X38 so the X38 and P45 are basically the same, so you were half right P45 has the revised northbridge but its nothing substantial in terms of performance just basically a re-organising of how things are routed through the northbridge.

I don't think anyone has had the P5Q P45 chipset yet but I wouldn't go so far as to say its bad. Probably perfectly fine I just take customer service as part of the sale of the item and after dealing with Asus I(because of my ridiculously high expectations) won't use them again myself.