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    Help for first time builders - What to expect.

    Guide to designing your own budget computer.

    Tips :

    -Look at pre-built systems.
    Companies like Mesh, OCuk, Alienware and 3XS (Scan) are a great place to start.
    Get yourself a feel for the technology available to you, and the prices you can expect to pay.

    -Set yourself a budget!
    Don't price yourself in over the top and check your finance options
    and build costs aswell before purchasing anything.

    -Be Patient
    Never rush into things, always make sure you're happy 100% with the products your about to buy.

    --------------------------------------

    Step 1/ Have an idea of your system.

    Example, I based my system originally off the Elite Q9300 Pro (PCA) from Mesh.
    Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Q9450 Quad Core Processor(2.66GHz,12MB Cache,1333MHz) [upg £ 80.00]
    Genuine Windows Vista™ Home Premium Edition with SP 1
    Aluminium ATX Midi Tower + 550W PSU [upg £ 30.00]
    Performance Pack - OCZ Vendetta Heat pipe quiet cooling, Performance updates, specialist cabling [upg £ 59.00]
    PCI-Express Mainboard - SLi nForce 750i SLi - Intel Core2Duo/Quad Core - ATX [upg £ 39.00]
    4GB DDR2 800MHz Memory (2x 2GB)
    500GB Serial ATA Hard Drive with 16MB Buffer
    Blu-ray ROM Player Dual layer DVD Writer 24 x CD Writer
    LightScribe Super Format 20x Dual Layer DVD Writer +R/-R/RW/RAM [upg £ 25.00]
    512MB nVIDIA GeForce 9800GTX - Dual DVI, HDTV, TV-Out [upg £ 50.00]
    22" Widescreen LCD TFT Digital Display (DVI, 5ms)
    DVI connector Cable [upg £ 4.20]
    Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Sound Card [upg £ 49.00]
    Logitech S220 - 2.1 Speakers with Subwoofer *dont worry about this, I have 5.1 surround sound system w/ 5.1 headphones at home*
    Logitech Cordless Keyboard & Cordless Optical Mouse
    Free Microsoft® Works® 8.5 + Limited Microsoft Office Trial
    Free Cyberlink Video Editing Suite - 7 titles (oem)
    Assassin's Creed - Ubisoft, PC, DVD-ROM Game *FREE OFFER*
    Multi-format Memory Card Reader (ATX)
    2 Year Hardware Warranty - Back to Base (UK Mainland only) [upg £ 48.99]

    Would have cost £1200, yet with the help of everyone in the Hexus.net forums, I eventually knocked the price down to £850 for a system that would more than likely perform better that that!

    Here is the Specification
    Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Q6600 Quad Core Processor Overclocked(3.2GHz,8MB Cache) (Cooled with Arctic Silver 5)
    Genuine Windows Vista™ Home Premium 64Bit Edition with SP 1
    Akasa Zen ATX Tower + Corsair 520W Quiet Modular PSU
    Xigmatek 120mm 3x Heatpipe Quiet Cooling
    PCI-Express Mainboard - Crossfire Intel P5Q Pro iP45 - Intel Core2Duo/Quad Core - 2X PCI-Express16x - ATX
    4GB DD2 Corsair 800MHz Memory (2x2GB)
    400GB Serial ATA300 Hard Drive with 16MB Buffer + NCQ
    Blu-ray ROM / HD-DVD ROM / Dual Layer DVD Lightscribe Writer RW+/-
    512MB ATI Sapphire Radeon 4850 - DVI, HDTV
    22" Neovo Widescreen LCD TFT Digital Display (DVI, 3ms, 2000:1 contrast, HDCP)
    Sharkoon 2000dpi Gamer Rush USB 2.0 Mouse + Logitech Deluxe 250 Keyboard

    Everything above is an improvement on the bits from Mesh, better quality parts with Manufacturers warranties.

    People on Hexus forums will help you with your own build, they're able to suggest cheaper, higher quality and higher specification parts than you may have been offered. Best of all...

    ...you can have fun building it when it all arrives

    Just to show you the sort of transition you shoud expect, here is what happened to me
    http://forums.hexus.net/graphics-car...buying-pc.html (First post)
    http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-hardwa...gin-my-pc.html (Second post)
    http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-hardwa...-comments.html (Third post, nearly there)
    http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-hardwa...ts-please.html (Finally completed build design, even got the price down to £810 at one point with offers from scan and extras bundled )

    Give it a go, you'll be suprised how much you'll learn and save with help from Hexus and SCAN

    Once again, I'd like to thank everyone who helped me
    -- MY 2008 RIG --
    CASE: Antec 300/ MOBO: ASUS P5Q Pro/ CPU: Q6600/ RAM: Corsair 4GB XMS2/
    COOLING: Xigmatek Heatsink 120mm, 2x Xigmatek 120mm w/ Fan controller/
    GFX: Sapphire HD4850/ PSU: Corsair HX520/ HD: WD 640GB w/ VibeFixer
    DISPLAY1: 22" Neovo 3ms/ DISPLAY2: 32" HDTV/


    -- MY 2011 RIG --
    CASE: BitFenix Survivor/ MOBO: ASUS P8Z68V Pro/ CPU: i7 2600K @ 4.4Ghz/ RAM: Corsair 16GB Vengenge DDR3 1600MHz/
    COOLING: Antek Kuhler H20 with Push-Pull Fans EXPANSION: Black Magic Intensity HDMI 1080p Capture Card
    GFX: Sapphire HD6950 *unlocked to 6970*/ PSU: XFX 650w Modular/ HD: 60GB OCZ Agility 3 Sandforce SSD w/ 1TB Sata 3 Storage & 640GB Sata2 Backup
    DISPLAY1: 23" 3D 1080p 120Hz LG / DISPLAY2: 22" 1080p LG/



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      • Motherboard:
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      • Memory:
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      • Storage:
      • Samsung 500GB SATA2 16MB
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    Re: Help for first time builders - What to expect.

    Yeah I saved alot,

    Although Im sure that Q6600 isn't much of an upgrade from a Q9450!

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    Re: Help for first time builders - What to expect.

    Quote Originally Posted by wzix View Post
    Although Im sure that Q6600 isn't much of an upgrade from a Q9450!
    yeah... it's not an upgrade... but it's alot cheaper... and it overclocks very, very well...
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      • Motherboard:
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      • CPU:
      • Intel Q6600 2.4Ghz
      • Memory:
      • Corsair 4GB XMS2
      • Storage:
      • Samsung 500GB SATA2 16MB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire HD4850
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    Re: Help for first time builders - What to expect.

    Well yeah I meant what he was getting, not its capabilities

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      • Motherboard:
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      • CPU:
      • Intel Q6600 Core 2 Quad (2.4Ghz)
      • Memory:
      • 4GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2
      • Storage:
      • 640GB Western Digital Sata2
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire HD4850 Dual Slot Cooler
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX520w
      • Case:
      • Antec 300
      • Operating System:
      • Windows Vista 64bit Premium
      • Monitor(s):
      • 22" Neovo LCD + 32" HDTV
      • Internet:
      • 24Mb Virgin Broadband

    Re: Help for first time builders - What to expect.

    From what I've read, the Q9450 stocks slightly better than the Q6600. But the OC of a 65nm core over a 45nm like the Q9 series is much safer to overclock as the 45nm get hotter considerably quicker. The Q6600 safely clocks upto the equivalent of a highend extreme Q9 series core so this, alongside a nice wad of cash saved should put a smile on many a builders face
    -- MY 2008 RIG --
    CASE: Antec 300/ MOBO: ASUS P5Q Pro/ CPU: Q6600/ RAM: Corsair 4GB XMS2/
    COOLING: Xigmatek Heatsink 120mm, 2x Xigmatek 120mm w/ Fan controller/
    GFX: Sapphire HD4850/ PSU: Corsair HX520/ HD: WD 640GB w/ VibeFixer
    DISPLAY1: 22" Neovo 3ms/ DISPLAY2: 32" HDTV/


    -- MY 2011 RIG --
    CASE: BitFenix Survivor/ MOBO: ASUS P8Z68V Pro/ CPU: i7 2600K @ 4.4Ghz/ RAM: Corsair 16GB Vengenge DDR3 1600MHz/
    COOLING: Antek Kuhler H20 with Push-Pull Fans EXPANSION: Black Magic Intensity HDMI 1080p Capture Card
    GFX: Sapphire HD6950 *unlocked to 6970*/ PSU: XFX 650w Modular/ HD: 60GB OCZ Agility 3 Sandforce SSD w/ 1TB Sata 3 Storage & 640GB Sata2 Backup
    DISPLAY1: 23" 3D 1080p 120Hz LG / DISPLAY2: 22" 1080p LG/



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