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    Warhammer Online Gaming Rig,

    Hi Guys,

    A friend and I are both interested in trying Warhammer Online, but our problem is we both own an old edition of Apple's iMac which we both use for work, so we have decided that the time has come to buy a gaming rig,

    At present we have both looked around on the net to see what we can get for our budgets (mine is £600-£700, his is £700-£800), my friend likes the look of an alienware system that fits in to his budget (i also like the look of it but its more then my budget) and i have seen a Dell system that seems ok,

    What i would like to know is if you guys could recommend some good gaming systems to us that would fit our budgets,

    Thanks,
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    Re: Warhammer Online Gaming Rig,

    Are you not willing to build them for yourselves? Because self built, £700 will get you a monster PC.

    I'm not suggesting this to buy but this is the sort of spec you can expect from some of the smaller builders out there
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...ator%22%204850

    probably better to use yoyotech though.

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    Re: Warhammer Online Gaming Rig,

    Quote Originally Posted by staffsMike View Post
    Are you not willing to build them for yourselves? Because self built, £700 will get you a monster PC.

    I'm not suggesting this to buy but this is the sort of spec you can expect from some of the smaller builders out there

    probably better to use yoyotech though.
    Well since i come from the Apple world i have no experience in "building" a PC, to be honest i wouldn't even know where to start or what i would have to do

    And my friend doesn't think that the case looks as "cool" as the ones on the alienware site so i think its a no from him on a system from that site,

    thanks for your reply
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    Re: Warhammer Online Gaming Rig,

    There are loads of "cool" cases out there, and ask your friend how long he intends:
    a) To look at the case for.
    b) To look at the screen for.

    Get my drift?

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    Re: Warhammer Online Gaming Rig,

    Obviously there is a certain amount of personal taste that goes into the case but function is the real issue, not design. PC World sell a rip off alienware case, if he likes it that much lol

    Building yourself is pretty easy tbh, just google for a guide.

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    Re: Warhammer Online Gaming Rig,

    So if my friend likes the Alienware Area-51 7500 desktop how would he go about building the equivalent him self at home?

    Sorry for all of the questions but after taking a look at a build-it-yourself guide it left me more confused and in fear of breaking or damaging expensive components which neither of us would want to chance or risk doing as we don't have much of a budget to begin with,

    Also will building a system ourselves give the same performance as one from a company such as alienware?

    /Rookie

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    Re: Warhammer Online Gaming Rig,

    Building it yourself saves a wod of cash and also gives you the satisfaction of self accomplishment that money cannot buy....

    lol who am I kidding but you do save a wod of cash and everyone has to start somewhere!

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    Re: Warhammer Online Gaming Rig,

    I paid £800 on my home build, I'm making it monday and i've never built one before but ther are so many guides it makes it much easier on rookies like us!

    My build is about the equivalent to a £1000/£1100 prebuild at least, I as quoted over £1300 at a local store (but they are ripoffs anyway).

    If your willing to spend the time on it, you might really impress yourself
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    Re: Warhammer Online Gaming Rig,

    As these machines are for one game, that sets you a target specification. I found this article which benchmarks the game and determines what video cards and CPUs are optimal:

    http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,6..._of_Reckoning/

    It seems any reasonably modern card will do, and a dual-core CPU will provide adequate grunt.

    A decent spec might be:

    Antec Sonata 500 Watt case - £75-80
    2gb RAM - £25-30 or 4Gb ~£50
    nVidia 9800 GT ~ £85-90 or ATI/AMD 4850 ~ £110
    DVD-RW ~£15
    Price: £200-255

    HD - depends on how much capacity you want. Best price per GB is around the 500Gb range. Performance-wise, single platter 320 Gb or dual-platter 640 Gb drives are best.
    CPU - lots of choice here. Intel E7200 or better, maybe an AMD Phenom if at a good price.
    Motherboard - depends on the CPU. Consider connectivity options for other secondary purposes. AMD boards are cheaper than Intel ones for what they provide, which somewhat offsets the price/performance advantage of the Intel Core Duos.

    Price: >£145

    Monitor:
    How big do you want? Aim for something with HDCP support (allows HD video to be played on it). There are threads on the forum about a budget 24" Yuraku monitor for about £200, which is somewhat basic as far as inputs and positioning is concerned, but has a very good panel and HDCP. A basic 22" TN film panel monitor can be had for £130, anything smaller wouldn't be worth it. Read up on TN film and PVA panel types to see why some monitors cost a lot more than others.

    Price: >£130

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    I would say that investing in a good quality monitor, keyboard/mouse (I'm not a fan of wireless keyboards, those batteries can give out at a critical moment!) and a good chair are the best investments you could make. Blowing a load of cash on a spec that far exceeds the requirements of the game and will devalue like a sinking stone is not something I'd advise.
    Last edited by colmo; 21-09-2008 at 02:46 PM.

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    Re: Warhammer Online Gaming Rig,

    We've been here a few times before and everyone always says build your own. I would caveat that. If you have more money than time, or are completely cack-handed or -brained, then you might be better off getting someone else to build it for you. There are a few things that can trip up a first time builder - probably your best quality is patience, and it helps if you can be methodical.

    As has been pointed out, self-built you would absolutely have no problem in getting a PC that is well capable of playing WH very nicely indeed. If you want one built then in my mind you were right to pick on Dell. You can be sure that they will still be there next year if anything goes wrong and they are pretty competitive. They also sell excellent monitors.

    If you decide to DIY, then your first choice should be a monitor. Minimum size is 20" widescreen. 22" are same pixels so picture quality is slightly inferior if anything, but obviously everything looks a little larger. A 24" costs a fair bit more, so it's probably outside your budget.

    Having decided on a monitor then you need to choose a graphic card. Your Res on a 20 or 22" screen is 1680x1050, and colmo's recommendations look fine. His excellent linky also shows that the game benefits from a C2D. Myself I think you can justify getting a E8400. It's £35 more, but the extra speed and cache will be noticeable, but any C2D (or indeed most AMD dual cores) will probably do.

    He did forget that you need a Hard Drive. I'd suggest a single platter 320Gb, like the Western Digital WD3200AAKS, although you could save a bit by reducing the size (won't be as fast though). A great value, excellent mouse is the Logitech MX518.

    Motherboard, I'd get a P45 chipset, like this http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=818511. Case is somewhat a matter of choice, but do make sure you get a decent Power Supply, like Corsair, Seasonic, Enermax. Check here before you buy.

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    Re: Warhammer Online Gaming Rig,

    Nope, the HD is in there, I just didn't give any detail because it's the sort of thing you toss in with other hardware in an order.

    I forgot to mention you'll need OEM Vista or XP licenses - don't forget to budget for those. For a new machine, I'd go for the 64-bit versions.

    I always seem to recommend the Sonata case, because buying a comparable PSU and case of similar quality usually ends up costing more. At £80, I think it represents a good deal.

    Building PCs isn't for everyone, but if you have a friend who knows how to do it, you could get him to do it (or both of them). As both your friend and you are getting machines, I can see a fun evening for the two of you, with PC parts strewn across a table, in your future! As long as you observe anti-static precautions and don't use excessive force, you should be fine.

    Building PCs now is a lot simpler than it was 10 years ago (less/no PCI boards to install, no motherboard dip switches, harder to wire up the power to the motherboard incorrectly, no floppy drive anymore, SATA cables are so much neater than IDE..etc). The biggest issue is if a part is DOA, and you don't know which one it is because the rig won't start-up. Having another machine to swap parts in and out of for diagnostic purposes is a big help there.

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    Re: Warhammer Online Gaming Rig,

    Rookie? I know this is a long shot but if you go by the nickname of rookie and you live in Bethnal green, then why the Heck didn't you just ask me. (ok it's a long shot but I've had too many other coincidences this week to surprise me, if you're not this rookie then ignore that)

    many people here have listed good advice so far, couple of things to note:
    windows xp = 2gb memory (or 3gb)
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    MMOs like system memory and happly eat a lot of it, more than any other games.
    warhammer online also take up a lot of harddrive space (not so much a problem for a new system, but older pc's with slower hard drives be aware)

    I wouldn't go as high as a 24" montior personally, the jump in resolution can require a setup in graphics card or a step down in graphics settings. a 20"-22" with a nvidia 9800gt or ati 4850 would be fine.

    If you do want prebuilt then the yoyotech Spartan system looks good
    http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/pc_system....bd85749f10a85d
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    Re: Warhammer Online Gaming Rig,

    Well my friend decided to go with the Alienware Rig as he was able to up the system specs and get it on finance over the next three years,

    The Rig hes got looks good, and getting it on finance for around £35 a month is soooo tempting but i haven't made my mind up yet,

    I've looked at what you guys have suggested and i'm a little unsure on what i should do next, on one hand i could try and build my own but on the other i could have people who have built computers for "x" amount of years do it for me and then enjoy paying back a small fee every month :S

    Think this is going to be a hard choice
    /Rookie

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    Re: Warhammer Online Gaming Rig,

    What spec has he gone for because you don't get a lot of alienware for £800.

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    Re: Warhammer Online Gaming Rig,

    Quote Originally Posted by Rookie1986 View Post
    Well my friend decided to go with the Alienware Rig as he was able to up the system specs and get it on finance over the next three years,

    The Rig hes got looks good, and getting it on finance for around £35 a month is soooo tempting but i haven't made my mind up yet,

    I've looked at what you guys have suggested and i'm a little unsure on what i should do next, on one hand i could try and build my own but on the other i could have people who have built computers for "x" amount of years do it for me and then enjoy paying back a small fee every month :S

    Think this is going to be a hard choice
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    Finance means you end up paying 20% more.

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    Re: Warhammer Online Gaming Rig,

    He went with this system and it looks mighty tempting to me too:

    Alienware Aurora System in Space Black with Red Fusion lighting,
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    750 Watt Alienware® Approved Multi-GPU Power Supply
    512MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 9800 GT
    4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 4 x 1024MB
    Alienware® Approved AMD® 790FX Motherboard
    Genuine Windows® Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1
    250GB SATA 3Gb/s 7200 RPM
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