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Here's what I've decided on getting for my aircooling rig... Purpose of thread: to get feedback, mostly positive (I hope) :P
Case: Silverstone TJ07B-W Black Aluminium Full Tower Case with Window ATX/E-ATX/SSI
Fans: included with TJ07B
Extra Fan: Scythe KAMA-BAY Black System Cooler 120mm Fan...
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12P SE1366
Controller: MCubed T-Balancer bigNG
Well before I give feedback (mainly positive.. kinda) have you already bought this? lol
Main concern is the CPU cooler which is an i7 cooler by the looks of things and i seem to remember you are not getting i7.
lol good looking out,Quote:
Originally Posted by staffsMike
But, fortunately, I'm not THAT stupid, and I've done my research on all of my parts and had second opinions, and I know what I'm getting... no I haven't purchased yet... and yes I'm upgrading to i7 and that's why I chose this, it's the best i7 cooler for its performance and quietityness (lol)
:rockon2:
You are buying an i7.... now :O_o1: ?
Not sure I would bother with the controller tbh. seems like a bit of a waste when the mobo can control most fans and they should be quiet enough as it is. A cheap manual fan controller is always an option too.
Yes, I decided to get an i7, because if I upgrade in the future, I would have to pay the same GROSS AMOUNT price as I would if I just bought it now.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedMoarFarms
There's no difference. So I figured I'll just do it now, it's only a few hundred extra total to upgrade to top quality mobo and ddr3.
... as for the controller, Mike... I am getting it for when I go watercooling. So I'm just getting it now because it's going to come in handy when I have the added radiator fans to control, etc...
iiiiii.. gechya ;)
TRUE 1366 version!
Wanders off to find a retailer that has some in stock...
Oh well you cant have it yet as it is still waiting to be released :(
You could always get the TRUE and the bolt through kit though ;) £36 for the TRUE black £7 for the bolt through kit and a fan of your choice total cost ~£50
The other one comes with 2 very decent fans... decisions decisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Webby
I don't understand what you just said. What is "TRUE" what is "TRUE black" what is the "bolt through kit"? What is this for? lol thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Webby
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Bit-tech actually showed it's the best value for money system (so long as you are really hammering the CPU, if you are a gamer like me the 8400 is the best :p).Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedMoarFarms
It looks ok, I'm not a fan of automatic controllers as they can be a bit fiddly to set up - I bought a Scythe Kaze Master which controls the 4 fans, reads temps and displays all info on an inobtrusive VDF. So would definately recommend to anyone else considering it.
The only thing I would have liked extra for geek-factors is a power consumption read out. But you can just plug a load meter into the wall really.
£50 for a fan controller? I guess its auto matic but is it worth paying 5x as much to not bother setting the fans yourself? I never see the point in expensive fan controllers as they all do the same job except for some just have extra crap added. So far my hiyatek fan controller(up to 6 fans) from ebuyer is doing a damn good job and costs less then £10, only downside is the annoying LED in each dial but for a good saving its nothing.
If you think about it, you pay more for I7 now instead of waiting since ram is going down along with cheaper motherboards will be in production, price cuts could happen and the cpu coolers will be much cheaper. Its your choice but id wait.
The thing is, if I don't buy the i7 now, then I have to buy a different processor, a different mobo, and different ram, because I don't have a Desktop PC, so I'm buying the whole setup right now... So rather than spend £250 on the afforementioned hardware, I'm spending more like £600-ish...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hicks12
Even if the i7 and mobo and ram all drop in price by £100 each, that will still cost me £300 in upgrades, which is £550 total... whereas I'm paying £600 now... So there's really no difference in price at all.
And I am a gamer... but the 8400 will become obsolete as games start to utilize Quad, and I'd rather just have the mobo and ram that I need and update my CPU if it ever struggle, etc...
I'm sure it will work out fine :)
The reason I'm getting a controller is because my friend is good with watercooling and recommended the controller because having to adjust the dials can be annoying. This way, when my computer is idle then the fans won't run and I will save some energy... and when things get hot and need to be cooled, then the fans will cool them for me... so they work when I need them to, without having to pay them to work when I don't need them to.
It's a long-term investment, just like my case...
I see you have the Samsung 226 monitor... how is that for gaming? I was planning on getting this LG L226, I read good things about it... with 3ms refresh it's said to have very little to no noticable shadowing during fast-action gameplay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreaming
Ah sorry TRUE = Thermalright Ultra Extreme and it is pretty much the best air cooler on the market.
TRUE Black: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Therm...S775-AM2-(all)
Bolt through kit: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Therm...6-Motherboards makes it possible to mount the cooler on the larger socket
For some figures on an i7 920 look here http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?...hlbnRodXNpYXN0 only shows the CPU OCed to 3.8GHz but still gives you an idea of how well the cooler performs with the fan they used performance will vary with which fan you pick the faster the fan the better the cooling but they tend to be noisier. One of Thermalrights Fluid dynamic bearing fans or an S-Flex will be good ;)
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Originally Posted by Webby
Thanks a lot... Have you read reviews on my chosen cpu cooler? I think the one I have is good, I don't know how far away it is from TRUE but it's gotten good reviews... I'm not sure if I need TRUE, I plan on following strict guidelines for overclocking and not burning my cpu up with extreme levels of OC.
And water cooling is used for? :D If you don't NEED a true, you couldn't possibly need water cooling lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Robscure
It's starting to annoy now isn't it.. I'll wear you down, you'll see :laugh:
Speaking of waiting for i7 to drop. You wouldn't need to spend £250 on core 2 parts. A mere £165 will get you an E5200 (~£55), 4GB PC6400 RAM (~£37) and a biostar P45 (~£73)
You could go even cheaper on the mobo, probably £25 - £30, and go for 2GB of RAM and save another £15 if you were sure you wanted to take a dive on i7 sooner rather than later.
It's not a bad way to go and I'm willing to be that it's just being used for gaming you won't need to upgrade for a long time yet.
:surprised:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by staffsMike
I'm not worried about saving £200 on something like this...
This is a long term investment, and I'm sure it will last me years.
I'm not going to overclock insanely at the moment because it's already overkill for what I'm planning to do. But when I need to, then I will... and then it will be insane again.
OK you seem very resolved :)
What are your final specs for the rig if I may ask?
You may want to swap the kama fan bay for one of these
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Silve...wap-black-RoHS
My reasoning is that as it's also made by silverstone it shouldn't have any variation in colour and should match the case, although I'm not sure the TJ07B needs any extra fans, it's got some good air flow as it is.
on the cpu cooler, if you're planning to water cool in the near future then you may just want to stick with the stock intel cooler for now, no point on shelling out on an expensive cooler if you play to get rid of it in a month or two.
Thanks, I'll check out the silverstone bay...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pob255
As for the cooler... I'm not planning on getting water for a year, so that's why.
... and Mike... I'm hesitant to post my specs just incase I change my mind again I don't want to look so indecisive... but...
Here they are anyways.
i7 920
P6T
6gb Corsair Dominator (1600)
BFG GTX260 OCX Maxcore
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Originally Posted by staffsMike
LOL
:bowdown:
Which P6T ?
There's about 6 different models already?
Asus is starting to get as bad as nvidia.
Asus P6T DeluxeQuote:
Originally Posted by Pob255
BFG GTX 260 OCX Maxcore
6GB Corsair Dominator DDR3 PC3-12800 (1600)
:)